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Well I was playing league for a bit today, my team mate was a Nemesis and pretty much wrecked and chased everyone around the map.

The person picked Nemesis because the other team picked Zhong Kui so they wanted to counter him, I assume they ment her ult would counter him since he is tanky as hell and Nemesis can shred him.

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I want to make her into a warrior/assassin hybrid, where an assassin build and a warrior build, or even one in between, are all equally viable. This will be reflected in the ideas.

Passive Idea #1: Damage Multiplier

Passive Idea #2: Damage Reflection

Passive Idea #Just4Fun

Either way, her passive is lackluster and needs a rework.

Dash Idea #1: Charge System

Dash Idea #2: Recast

Dash Idea A: Optional

These changes are just general improvements to her mobility, as well as making her kit a lot more flexible and free-flowing. Like it should.

Slice and Dice...it's not the worst skill in the world...barely. To be honest, very few skills are worse than it. gives CDR. slither gives slow immunity and a good amount of speed. gives valuable sustain. tangled web gives a giant AoE ranged slow. I guess or transgressors fate are worse.

Slice Idea #1: Damage Boost w/Cooldown Reduction

Slice Idea #2: Damage Boost w/CC

In both cases, you get a skill that doesn't deal completely garbage damage.

Retribution is so inefficient it needs a rework.

Shield Idea #1: Good Old...

Shield Idea #2: Shield Power!

In both cases, the reflection heal/damage is based on RAW damage. If the healing and damage reflect were based on mitigated damage, it would essentially be mitigated twice from your and the enemy's protections, making it deal pathetic damage. This way is much better.

As for Nem's ultimate, honestly, the protections steal makes zero sense. She's an assassin, she's supposed to target squishy folks, not the tanks.

There are so many components to the ultimate, I decided to simply make a list of the possible ideas to add in. Mix and match them at leisure.

Current Ones

I'd like to remove the protections buff, for reasons as stated above. The health and move speed can be tweaked.

Ideas

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Moving on in a bit.

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I think this thread has run out of steam. I mean the last god was just a bunch of people saying meh or this god shouldn't be here, and then suddenly a rework summary pops out of nowhere with changes that were never discussed or mulled over. This thread has turned into a rant at a brick wall.

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I stopped commenting on it as well.
Jorden left and sub is just adding gods he thinks are op or up, which is not what was intended at all.

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While the whole summary thing was a bit annoying to see pop up I'm glad he was so invested in this thread.

Also from now on when we do this kind of stuff I feel it would be best to make separate threads based on role to lower the clutter.

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Are you nuts? Everyone agreed that Guan was underpowered as hell. He was put up BEFORE they changed his . The day the patch came, I moved on.

Are you even reading the thread? If you're wondering why Guan Yu seemed to have more rework ideas than other suggestions (suggestions that you didn't even bother to acknowledge, it seems), you'd see that people just gave vague little things like "I wish was stronger" or "Guan needs his old back." I can't squeeze water out of a stone. Try naming one time in this thread where I did not post someone's idea in a summary.

I know jumping on the "hate sub" train is in fashion lately, but you might want to read the content of the thread you're posting in.

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I stopped commenting on it as well.
Jorden left and sub is just adding gods he thinks are op or up, which is not what was intended at all.

We know you stopped commenting because you're pissed at me for some unknown reason.

Also, Jordenito's list was made of gods that he thought were OP or UP. There should be no difference between that and me adding gods that I think are OP or UP.

You also seriously need to grow up and get over yourself. I'm tired of you snipping at me whenever possible. I know you don't care for me, and so you're insulting and harassing me, but for the love of god:

1. Harass me in a more rational manner
2. Stop going into irrelevant discussions to harass me.

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While the whole summary thing was a bit annoying to see pop up I'm glad he was so invested in this thread.

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Also from now on when we do this kind of stuff I feel it would be best to make separate threads based on role to lower the clutter.

That was already tried. It didn't work, and ended up as mass chaos of random suggestions that were never organized. There was too much chaos, too much moving over old ground, there was no progress.

Jord's method is slower. But at least it lets us move on.

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Excuse me?
Was this offensive in any way?
No.
So stop acting like it.
Also, Jorden didn't make the list:
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Like, seriously that's exactly what happened and I didn't like it. How did you want me to say it then...

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