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If League of Legends took the EXACT same system requirements to play as Smite.

How many people do you think would not be playing League right now?

All the toaster kids would not be able to play.

I doubt all the toaster kids would still be playing League over Smite if they have a laptop to run both.

If you got a toaster for chirstmas and you can't play Smite guess what you might try? You might try to download dota2, but your toaster may not be able to run that either, there for you go for league of legends.

So if your toaster is only capable of running lol, are you not going to be bais towards it since your toaster can only play that Moba???

That is a fact, not for all people but I know for alot.

I will use myself as an example.

I use TWO laptops
* My laptop that is being borrowed, can run games like Smite, its GPU is better and allows me to play games like Smite, therefor since I can run those type of games, there is no reason to play League, playing league looks like I am playing a 1999 ps1 game compared to Smite.

* My other laptop, that I am on right now, CANNOT run games like Smite or Dota 2. In fact I WANTED dota 2 OVER League of legends, YET I got league of legends, why? Not because I like it better over Dota 2 or Smite but BECAUSE this stupid laptop GPU is garbage and its the only Moba you can play therefor you take what you can get. I mainly use this laptop for recording things.

So pertaining to my toaster laptop.
- I wanted Smite, but my toaster can't handle it
- I wanted Dota 2 since my toaster can't get Smite, but my toaster can't run Dota 2 that well
- I am forced to play League because its the only Moba that will run on my toaster

The point is, for toaster children which is ALOT of people, League is a 3rd best, why? Because toasters can play it.

If everyone who had league was given a $450-600+ Computer/Laptop, not as much people would be playing league.

The reason League has so many people playing it is not simply because people think its the best, its because TONS of people can run it on toasters therefor the game can be played by mostly anyone.

If your computer can only run league, well you are going to be a thankful bastard and play that moba are you not? Unless you hate it that bad, but if you want a moba its the only **** you will be playing.

That is like this, if xbox one and ps4 only let you play Space Invaders, well guess what, more people will be playing space invaders, but don't say space invaders is better than Gears of War because Space invaders looks like a SNES game compared to a game like Gears.

Toaster children will always be toaster children

If 10,000,000 people can run League
but only 1,000,000 people can run Smite

GUESS which game has more people on it?

Is it soly because league is the best!!!

No its because toaster children can play it on anything including a potatoe, no I mean they can literally download league on a REAL patatoe.

If EQUAL amount of people could run Smite, I doubt the number would be that high.

* Also, toasters FAR OUT WEIGH non toasters.

The computer I am on right now cost $420-$440 when I bought it years back.
- It cannot even run Dota 2 or Smite even on low settings

- League can be run on LOW settings

So I proved that even for people who spend $400+ on a laptop they still can't even play games like Smite or Dota.

That means if people who spend $400+ Are still toaster children who can ONLY play league as the moba to go to.

Unless you are luckily like me and got a laptop that CAN run Smite.

Dota looks better than League, I would play that over league simply because League looks ugly as hell and I do not want to be stuck playing on pac man graphics, what is fun about seeing ugly graphics so bad that its not even able to keep up with ps2 graphics?

Oh but what if the game is fun!!!

You have two choices which do YOU pick?

Mine Craft how it looks now
or
Mine Craft it was realistic and had xbox one / ps4 Graphics???

Exactly, if given the same game you will always choose the better graphics unless your mentally a toaster oven kid.

When seeing games like Dota 2 and League, I auto go to Dota 2 simply because the games are similar BUT the graphics just poop on league, and when I see Smite, I really do not want to play a fugly game like League when I have modern day graphic moba's.

Playing Leauge is like playing Pac Man,

GET WITH THE MODERN DAY YOU TOASTER OVEN KIDS!!!

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Firstly, I have done it the last time you told me to. Doesn't work, because the other guy just hard pushes the wave with no consequence, or they just push from range and never leave their half of the map.

You keep insisting that freezing the lane works. Well, I've been playing since closed beta, watched several hundred Smite videos of Squiidish and Drybear and such, played over roughly 50 ranked games as mid and solo this season, and not ONCE, not ONCE, has anyone else tried to anything BUT hard shoving the lane.

What is logic.

Firstly, I don't think you understand this, but YOU LOSE XP IF YOU'RE UNDER TOWER! Tower make you fall behind in BOTH gold and XP. You get no gold for last hitting minions, and you inevitably lose last hits to the tower - further depriving you of the last hitting XP bonus. Don't take my word for it, go into any game, any ****ing lane, and let them push the minions to your tower. You will NOT be equal level with your lane partners. Also, you said don't play League, so don't make statements about itemization.

Secondly, last hits have nothing to do with freezing the wave. Freezing the wave is used to get the gold and XP for the wave without pushing. Last hits have literally nothing to do with it. Getting more or less reward for last hitting doesn't affect it because whether or not you push, you still get the exact same reward for last hitting, no matter which side you're on. You could be being pushed or be doing the pushing, you still get the same amount of gold and XP from the wave as long as you aren't inside tower. Being pushed to tower is a BAD THING. So if anything, PUSHING is more effective, like I've been saying all along.

Thirdly, if you're zoning them away from the wave far enough to make them lose XP, you're solidly winning or your enemies are idiots, and FREEZING THE WAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU GOT SUCH A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Stop obfuscating the argument by telling me the obvious. We're talking about how freezing the wave is beneficial, and the best argument you can come up with is "get massive advantage, and THEN freeze the wave. Therefore, freezing the wave gave you the advantage." What is logic.

It's not my job to prove anything - YOU are the one trying to prove that freezing the lane works, and all you're saying it "try it, it's good, I swear!" or "you didn't do it properly!" You obviously screwed up somewhere in your base assumptions.

Go ahead. Before I typed this, I actually played a Smite game to test it, as an ADC, AGAIN. Now it's your turn to try it. Go into a CQ game, pick ADC, and don't push the wave at all. Let them push you to tower, and see how much of an "advantage" you get.

Oh, and one more thing. Freezing the lane is keeping the wave where it is. You seem to think that freezing means "letting them push." Well, it isn't. That's why it's called freezing.

Yes you lose some exp (if the enemy minions manage to push all the way into your tower), but you losing some exp is okei if the enemy gets no exp. And yes there is a very small amount of players that does it (sun does is pretty often, and barra as well sometimes but that is pretty much the only ADCs that does it).

I think I said that it was possible to do it if you are able to force the enemy out of the passive range for farm (either be it because they are staying with to low health, underlvled etc). Which you're not doing if the enemy is able to push the wave, if that is the chase you lose farm on not pushing (because the enemy got all the gold exp from the wave, so you push as well ofc) :P

So if you force your opponent to not get any exp or gold (by letting his minions kill your minions while forcing him to watch from outside the range for passive exp and gold) you will get less farm than you would from last hitting/pushing the lane, but you get the passive farm from your minions killing his minions. He will get nothing at all, you do the same thing if you are alone in the lane (enemy dead or backed) unless you have an opportunity to rotate ofc.

So what happens is that the waves will push very slowly, if you take some last hits it will begin to push up a bit. AKA "freezing" the lane

To do this you do not need a massive advantage, all you need is someone staying a bit to long, being dead or just being in base.

letting your minions kill his minions just gives you a small lead for every minion that gets killed this way. And in the long run that will give you a massive lead.

You can not do it as often as in LoL, but it does exist. Ask DM, he talks about it almost every game he casts.

Yes pushing is a totally valid approach and you do not lose out on doing it so it is fail proof and it opens op for you being able to rotate or backing. But pushing and just sitting in your lane waiting for the next wave is a wast if you are able to deny the enemy more gold and exp by letting his minions kill your minions.

IMO every minion you deny is worth 2 minions you kill.

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