I think Neith, Chiron and Skadi are better mid laners and are better built without AS items (So they should go Heartseeker/Titan's instead of Exe/Qin's).
I think Chiron should just go trans, warrior, asi, exe, qins, o-bow build. I just don't see him building pure ability based like Ullr, Neith or Skadi.
Yes, but unless you're in AA-range the only way you typically will apply Masterful Shot is with your 1 which can be easily juked, plus a lot of the time gets saved as a CC cleanse. I mean yeah you can deal well with him pure ability based but he just isn't the best of hunters right now in my opinion.
Really happy to see some discussion in this thread! I'm going to post Estidien's opinions on the Jungle tierlist so y'all can discuss it a bit as well.
Ao Kuang is by far the strongest in the JG right now first off. His magical damage allows him to bypass many early game protection build orders and his kill potential is practically unrivaled
Idk why Achilles is so high up there with the current meta heavily favoring left click assassins
Not to mention a lot of his stuff is outplayable and I'd easily put him under gods like Arachne and Kali right now
Bellona needs to be dropped down a tier her stuff is too interuptable and avoidable. Other buildpaths make her weaker in the early
Odin's damage can actually be "Caught" by better players and is easy to avoid. He cant maintain that kind of damage late and becomes an ultbot that struggles to confirm kills without defense
Now that I think about it Odin can stay at C for composition purposes
Fenrirshould drop to B+ he's good but highly counterable as a pick. niche at best
Kuzenbo should drop a tier or 2(His big kill potential comes from building Tanky and cycling abilities with his reflect CDR reduction. Building him burst takes that away from him
Drop Artio 1 or 2 tiers or frankly just get rid of her
Thoth should go to A - I feel he is doing an insane damage if you hit all 3 hits from his 1 (at least B+ if not A).
I think Ao Kuang deserves an S tier because it's an Ao kuang, the master yi of smite (press 1 button, hold the auto attack and that's a kill)
King Arthur is S right now due the physical anti-heal item.
I can't understand why Sobek is A+ (as solo), I mean, unless he throws someone into the tower, I doubt he can win the lane.
Skadi is now at least A, but I would put she at A+. All hybrid hunters are A+ for me due Fail-Not, while the pure skill based (except Skadi, maybe Ullr too, as pointed by kriega) are B.
I strongly disagree with Geb S, plus Ares should be A right now.
Okay people! Let's update this! Leave your opinions about recent meta shifts here and DISCUSS THEM for this to be updated! Thanks
Mid:
Most hunters go up by one tier (Skadi by two), Thoth goes up one tier, Baron goes from like C to like, B+, Merlin goes down a tier, Isis goes up like 2 tiers, Freya goes down two tiers, Olorun would be like B tier for Mid, his early clear is ***, Set is like B+ tier for Mid I think.
ADC:
Apollo, Skadi go up a tier/two, Hou Yi goes up, Freya goes down.
I think this tier list gets the rough idea of it all:
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