Here's my main Guru stat page on PS4.
(IF you're interested) Check out game details of recent matches.
If you delve into the numbers, the general theme is that, with this last set of games last night, I've been basically carried by GameGeekFan and bad_juju40 (newbiemj here on SF). Even when I'm an offensive god that is supposed to carry, it's just not happening that much.
Excuse or not in some cases, I know some of my biggest issues:
- I will never be that good with PS4 controls. I still struggle with instinct with regard to the buttons (shoulder buttons are absolutely not the natural controls I'm familir with on my keypad), and my aim is often trash.
- I get tired of playing the same gods over and over...so I play gods that I'm okay with on PC, but it's not the same. No way in Hel I can combo stance switch with her with these controls. Maybe if I play her for 50 consecutive games...but note the first sentence of this point.
- General Smite skill. In the grand scheme of things, no matter the platform, I'm an average player at best. I can absolutely noob-stomp because I've got the basics down, and can even outplay some good people here and there...but I'm not a dominant force that can often carry teams of similar skill. With a proper team, I can hold my own, and that's about it.
Athena, Bacchus, Bastet, Chaac (even though I never play him), Freya, Eset, Medusa, Odin, Ra, and maybe Ymir.
Others might be so-so, but again, instincts for proper button presses aren't there, and aiming, especially distance, is suspect at best.
Granted, I overthink things. Some others might just play the game...I'm always thinking.
So anyway...rant on myself over. Bleh.
https://www.smitefire.com/smite/forum/off-topic/heres-where-i-game-and-other-stuff-58181
You already mentioned this one, but the familiarity of the controller. Once you nail that down you will probably feel a lot better. Also, in terms on the sensitivity, even with the same exact games, I still feel the sensitivity is always out of whack from platform to platform.
Next, I'm going to be that guy and blame it on Lag, or Latency. I don't know what your Console rig is like, but I do know that consoles tend to have a longer latency than PC. Now, we're talking about fractions of a second, but that could mean the world of differences.
That's my jargon for now, anyways here's my pitiful SmiteGuru page.
I'd also like to comment on the horrible horrible state that Smite Console is in. I'm speaking from an Xbox POV, but I'm sure PS4 isn't far off.
I never notice a latency issue...if it's affecting my play, I can't tell. What I CAN tell is that I want to do a combo, or I want to aim at something, and it just doesn't go the way I wanted it to go. In terms of using a controller, I grew up on digital...e.g. Nintendo controller, SNES controller...I'm great with platformers and whatnot...but when it comes to precision analog aiming (and multiple trigger buttons lol) I'm too heavy-handed. Used to just pushing all the way to the side, not only a quarter of the distance or whatever. And if I want to do a Chang'e 1, 3, basic, dodge (2), 1, half the time I'll fat-finger it and use my 2 early, or late, or not at all...triggers just are not natural for me...the face buttons would be way more natural for my brain, but then I wouldn't be able to aim at the same time.
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But might start to play some more on PS4 just for fun :)
As for your overall performance in SMITE, try solo queue once in a while. Because GGF and Newbiemj are on your team (especially Newbiemj), who have more PS4 games under their belt, the game will naturally try to balance the enemy team out to the players on your team. SMITE's matchmaking isn't the best to start with, and this on top of it combined with the unfamiliarity you feel for the PS4 controller, will obviously give you a way harder time than it should.
By solo queueing, the game will try to find teammates and enemies in line with your skill level (on PS4), and, unless matchmaking screws up once more, should give you a bit of an easier time. Use that to get used to the controls.
Another tip: play HZD already! Not only is the game amazing, by playing it in a non-PvP environment, you get all the time in the world to get the feel for the PS4 controller, and can do so at your own pace. Just do it!
As for gods, most of them are solid choices. You should play the other starter gods as well, though, ( Neith, Thor, Guan Yu) as they're, apart from Guan Yu perhaps, fairly easy to use and therefore the controls won't hinder you as much.
Another thing you could try is adjusting the control scheme in the settings, and perhaps you'll find a controls layout that suits you better, or change your skill casting method. Since you say you overthink stuff, instant casting abilities may be a good option. Gone are the days of bringing up the ability targeting, have it perfectly aligned too, but re-think it.
As for hitting your personal skill cap, yeah... Think I'm pretty much at that point as well. 4.13 will blow in some fresh air, in both a good and a bad way, so we'll see how that turns out when it rolls out.
Your suggestion is a good one on solo-queue, but totally defeats the purpose of me playing in the first place. I prefer playing with people I know =(
GGF is waaaay lower level than I am on PS4...I'm 25 or 26 now, and he's still like...14 or 15 maybe. But it shouldn't matter...I should be on par with standard level 30ers (even with teams increasing the supposed average Elo calc), so I'm just not holding my own in some of these cases.
I AM playing Horizon =P It's an amazing game...beautiful...but again, it's one of those things where...controller itself isn't the problem, it's that in combination with the game type. I'm not good at aiming with an analog stick. And those shoulder buttons have always been screwy for me...but they're also the best compromise so I can still aim with the right thumb. If I change the control scheme, I'll have to take my thumb off of aiming to activate a skill. (Savage control set)
I should try more Thor, that would be fun. I refuse to play more than an occasional Neith, lol. And Guan is just lackluster these days.
Yeah, newbie said I've got only ~100 hours (actually 92) on PS4 Smite...but that seems like a hell of a long time to get used to things. It's just that I'm not good with it, and don't think I ever will be. Oh well.
Im so used to having to compensate on pc that playing on the PS4 is a ****ing blessing by all means.
And yea blaming the controls is not going to help you actually do better at the game. Blaming never helps you improve. Find the problem and then work to a solution
The shoulder buttons shouldn't be that much of an issue. What button do you use to fire? I suggest R2 if that isn't the case yet. Your thumbs are used for the analog sticks, pointing finger for L/R1 and middle finger for L/R2.
For your D-pad and controller buttons (X, O, [], /\), you can use either your thumb as well, this is easier and more comfortable than using your pointing finger but does require you to release your analog stick on the respective side.
You can also use your pointing finger. This may feel less comfortable if you're not used to it. If you use your pointing finger, a good trick is to shift your middle finger from the R2 to R1 (or L2 to L1) if possible, that makes it a little more comfortable to use it that way.
Other than that, just a lot of playing and getting used to it. The biggest thing that jeopardizes your progress with the controller is the fact that the "breaks" in between are far too frequent and too long, due to work, The Wife, and other stuff. Can't really change that though, so any moment you see a possibility to use the PS4 controller, you should use it.
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Yep. But then again, I'm probably older than most of the regulars here, so my reaction time isn't the best to begin with. I'm good enough to generally hold my own with fellow good players, but not good enough to carry a team. An example is an assault game I played as Kuzenbo: pretty much every time I either initiated or counter-initiated, my team was there to take advantage of the disruption and we usually came away with a kill or two. I may have went 0/4/19, but almost all of those assists were actual assists and not from just being close to the kill. The previous assault game I played Kumbhakarna and went 3/6/9. My team lost that game because our Kuz decided to basically quit because we weren't pushing fast enough for them I guess. If the jackass had helped us with our last push, we could have easily taken the other team's phoenix. In that game we weren't very coordinated and my deaths usually led to at least one other and sometimes a diecide. The other team had no tank and we were easily pushing them back and taking their structures, but because of one bad player, we lost. I also had my best game today as Artemis where I went 11/1/10, but again I had a great team around me: almost every time the enemy team tried to focus on me, I had at least one or two of my teammates nearby who would counter-attack on them and more than once the enemy attacker paid with their life. My one death came from a combination of their Nox using her silence-root combo and Ratatoskr helping. Again, I was able to take advantage of the opportunities a great team afforded me. If they weren't as good, I would have struggled to remain even. Then there was that arena game as Vulcan where I went 9/3/14 but we lost 22-0 because my teammates weren't very good. We had two assassins, one who went 4/7/17 and the other who went 5/8/17. If I was a great Vulcan, I could have carried the team because there were a few instances I missed my ult because of poor aim. But if our two assassins hadn't been dying so much, we would have handily won that game. So no, it's not just you, Bran, I feel as if I've reached my peak as well.
Since you shared your stats, here are mine (pc only).
Holy ****, our hours are so close! (my PC profile)
Just played 4 games on PC...1 Assault ( Skadi) and 3 of the MOTD (Hoarded, Arena, 100k gold, level 3 start) because someone invited me to their group and that's what they were doing. Positive K/D in all matches, and went 12/2 in the last one as Loki (but that was the one we lost lol). The other Loki didn't know wth they were doing, built all funky, then I look later and he completely switched his build to match mine because I was demolishing him...and then I still continued to do so. Hadn't played as the bastard in a while, but damn if PC controls and familiarity feel really good sometimes.
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