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Give me a reasons why Hi-rez keeps trashy gods?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » November 5, 2013 1:40am | Report
For example:
Guan
Artemis
Bacchus

And maybe more to come...

Or give me reasons why they are not so trashy.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » November 5, 2013 1:49am | Report
Guan is very strong solo, bacchus is third pick ranked tank and art is a bit underpowered but has a ton of burst and very high single target cc but close to no escape and an unreliable ult.

The only trashy is art.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » November 5, 2013 2:06am | Report
Well I don't agree with bac because he has a very useless passive. Guan also useless passive. :/
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Thiel » November 5, 2013 2:17am | Report
I don't think Artemis is all that trashy when in the hands of a potent and careful player. Her 2 second stun is quite nasty.
True, her ult is a bit unreliable but that's why you shouldn't initiate with it, it's more of a mid-fight disrupter. She also has pretty high base damage.

Her lack of escapability just means that she is meant to be player near-AP cautious.
For competitive/ranked games I would pick Artemis over Cupid anytime.

Guan Yu can poke pretty consistently and can also take alot of damage, his sustain is very annoying.

Bacchus, albeit not as good as Sobek, is a good initiator with a strong carry. His belly flop can easily set up stuns/damage output. Belly Flop into Anhur stun into Bacchus' burp is just a CC-train.

All 3 of the above gods are also pretty often used in tournaments and ranked games, so I wouldn't say they are assumed trashy at all. (Although Artemis being the general lowest tier of the 3)

All 3 gods do require a better overall understanding of the game and a more skillful player for them to shine. They're not viable gods for new/bad players IMO.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » November 5, 2013 2:58am | Report
bac is not trash....
playing against him is annoying as ****
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sunfall » November 5, 2013 3:10am | Report
Uh, no. Those three are far from trash tier gods.

You want to know who the trashy gods are?

Vamana. He's completely outclassed in every regard by Hercules.
Arachne. She is only good at stomping noobs now with her recent nerfs. Every other assassin can do what she did better now.
Vulcan. His kit lacks good synergy to be good at any role.

The reason gods exist in this state is often due to overnerfing and powercreep. There's also the fact that Hi-Rez is always trying to push for more content, meaning less resources being dedicated to re-examining the existing gods for balancing. God balance would be nice, but content is what's bringing people into this game, so guess what's going to take the higher priority? New stuff.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » November 5, 2013 3:18am | Report
Guan is the only warrior with no initiate at all, you can't really count on the ulti since its.. an ulti. . Unlike vamana's knock up, thor's stun, and sun's 3. All his skills requires him to get up close. Like real close. Unless he has a way to poke with out fear of taking to much damage he is useless in team fights until he see a sure kill and ulti's or dashes towards them, making him like an assassin rather than a warrior.

If bac wasn't so mana hungry early game he would be a good tank. His one just gives him a small def boost and it's needed to make his stun work... so really his one is just useless. It's like they gave him a handicap instead with that passive and skill. I'm fine with the delayed stun though.

Art, no escape, unreliable ulti and a very easy to see trap unless your walking backwards.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » November 5, 2013 3:23am | Report
Sunfall wrote:

Uh, no. Those three are far from trash tier gods.

You want to know who the trashy gods are?

Vamana. He's completely outclassed in every regard by Hercules.
Arachne. She is only good at stomping noobs now with her recent nerfs. Every other assassin can do what she did better now.
Vulcan. His kit lacks good synergy to be good at any role.

The reason gods exist in this state is often due to overnerfing and powercreep. There's also the fact that Hi-Rez is always trying to push for more content, meaning less resources being dedicated to re-examining the existing gods for balancing. God balance would be nice, but content is what's bringing people into this game, so guess what's going to take the higher priority? New stuff.


That is a bit sad to know. Maybe once they full release the game they might come back to those op/up gods and fix them. No one likes an unbalanced game. So many MOBAs are unbalanced right now, and I don't want smite to be a part of that list :/
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HiFromBuddha » November 5, 2013 3:27am | Report
Well, they're not going to delete a god unles they are broken. As in, mechanically broken. In other terms, 'they ain't workin'.'

Even then, they'll bring them back.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » November 5, 2013 3:28am | Report
MadDanny wrote:

Well I don't agree with bac because he has a very useless passive. Guan also useless passive. :/

A god doesn't need a super strong passive to not be trash. Ne zha is one of the strongest assassins in the game and how good is his passive really? It only has use in team fights and you need to die to activate it.

Sobek is the #1 tank and for his to activate he needs to use his basic attacks... That ain't good for a tank. Guan yu's is not great but all of his other skills make up for it.
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