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Guan is the only warrior with no initiate at all, you can't really count on the ulti since its.. an ulti. . Unlike vamana's knock up, thor's stun, and sun's 3. All his skills requires him to get up close. Like real close. Unless he has a way to poke with out fear of taking to much damage he is useless in team fights until he see a sure kill and ulti's or dashes towards them, making him like an assassin rather than a warrior.

If bac wasn't so mana hungry early game he would be a good tank. His one just gives him a small def boost and it's needed to make his stun work... so really his one is just useless. It's like they gave him a handicap instead with that passive and skill. I'm fine with the delayed stun though.

Art, no escape, unreliable ulti and a very easy to see trap unless your walking backwards.

I just played a conquest match, Solo Herc Vs Solo Guan Yu.

Needless to say I pwned him easy.
Wait until guan you does his spinning sword **** then just stun him back out of it and he can't clear waves lol.

I even killed him one his horsey, he ulted me on low hp and I just fought him while he was on his little horsey

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Artemis is not so good early game, but her basic attacks tear people apart late and she has one of the strongest steroids in the game offense-wise. Trash early, not so much late. Who needs abilities when you can press 2 and kill a mage in .86 seconds?
Bacchus has 3 Cc abilities and one defense steroid. And its not a 'small defense boost,' its pretty strong. Perfect for a tank, provided you remember to drink. Even if he gets stunned out of his Belch, he can still dominate teamfights with his ult. Not trash, but super mana hungry early.
Guan Yu is very capable, damage is his disruption, and he requires a CC that may be better spent elsewhere.

You keep pointing to passives, and they aren't all that important. Who notices Freya's passive? Zhong Kui's passive could easily be put into his ultimate instead of being its own passive.

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Definitely wasn't expecting to see Guan when I clicked on a topic about trash gods. He's played competitively in three different roles (solo, jungle and support.) He's very good in each of them, and overall one of the best gods in the game right now.

Art and Bacchus aren't overly popular in the current meta, but both are still viable, and neither is at the bottom of their role.

Trash gods are definitely a concern because of the power creep though (the main ones have been named in the topic already.) No new god is released as just average, and they get buffed like crazy if they are. You can't maintain an even balance if you just keep releasing top tier gods. Eventually the others will just be reduced to useless.

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Uh, no. Those three are far from trash tier gods.

You want to know who the trashy gods are?

. He's completely outclassed in every regard by .
. She is only good at stomping noobs now with her recent nerfs. Every other assassin can do what she did better now.
. His kit lacks good synergy to be good at any role.

The reason gods exist in this state is often due to overnerfing and powercreep. There's also the fact that Hi-Rez is always trying to push for more content, meaning less resources being dedicated to re-examining the existing gods for balancing. God balance would be nice, but content is what's bringing people into this game, so guess what's going to take the higher priority? New stuff.

I agree, but I would put on that list - she's supposed to make up for her lack of CC with absurd damage numbers, but she only really accomplishes that with her 2 early-game.

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The only reason why Art is so disliked is due to her not having an escape/chase ability like the other Carries.

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What do you consider as trashy ? Overpowered ? Because all three of them are op.
Guan has insane amount of damage, armor health and speed with his ult he is unstoppable in right hands.
Bachus is best tank hands down and his ultimate ****s up whole team greatly.
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Lol thats because herc is pretty much a hard counter to solo guan yu! Herc thrives against gods that have abilities that mainly do sustained damage! He can either A) mitigate wounds and box it out then recover all his lost health or B) if mitigate wounds is on cd just interupt the ability with ur stun

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But yet i get herc who can't counter guan yu in solo. -_- im still salty.

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I can understand that! Its not impossible for guan to beat herc! Ive done it before its just really really really hard lol

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The only reason why Art is so disliked is due to her not having an escape/chase ability like the other Carries.

She got her steroid now though :p

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