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1) you need penetration otherwise, most of your damage gets soaked up by enemy protections
2) you need items that maximize your dps (qins sais OR some Crit items, one of them being deathbringer). It's good you included attack speed items with qin's sais, as that maximizes the dps of qin's.
In good faith, I will give an upvote and a rep, but we still have a long way to go. Looking forward to further open minded discussions with you.
nothing a Note won;t fix
wheras Luka has
Continuing the thread here since replies are disabled.
Luka, you're going around in circles and not answering the question.
Devampi and I are asking you, "WHY do you think it doesn't have to be a main build item, when it has a very high dps value when coupled with high attack speed"
Saying, "because it doesn't have to be a main build item" does NOT answer our question.
As of right now, at least for a god like Rama, if you don't go crits, then Qin's is a core item.
https://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/an-in-depth-discussion-on-item-choices-s6-patch-6-13-quot-the-vigilant-quot-14522
Read this and then give me a summary on what you learned.
The builds are looking better, with the inclusion of
Either pick
Read (don't skim), that guide I linked and try again.
The executioner is mandatory on a hunter.
Qins/Crit also is mandatory on adc to maintain dps.
We gave you our advice. If you want to follow it, great. If not, good luck winning your games, especially against more skilled players.
I said I wasn't going to comment on Luka's builds anymore, but I'll just add a bit of info.
Luka,
At max stacks, 36% protection reduction on 70 physical protection is the equivalent of 25 penetration. That 25 penetration is higher than any flat penetration item.
On top of that, it's superior to pen in the sense that it reduces the enemy's protections, so any other physical damage god on your team will also see the benefit and additional damage output while that debuff is active.
So you indicating that it is an alternative item, instead of a 100% CORE item, means you don't understand its effectiveness, and this makes the build suffer.
As for the rest...well,
Then you have other items in the "alternative" group that are just not suited for his use.
IMO
Unfortunately, the best build for him is a cookie-cutter type build. Devo's, Warrior, O-Bow, Exe, Qin's, situationals, or Devo's, Ninja, Rage, Exe, DB, situationals would be common paths. And you don't need to blast his build with AS, because he's got a pretty strong steroid in his kit.
What is your reasoning behind not putting Crits or
Anything in my alternative list
why qin's can be switched
Also, don't you "easy,Boog" me!
In the case of low physical protections (which a competent tank will pretty much have immediately making this a rare occurence) on the enemy it;s even worth to delay
crit builds suffer this less as they get their damage source slightly earlier.
So feel wise qins Damage increase has a better feel then exe and in certain scenerio's it is gonna outshine exe.
it helps your physical team mate, yeah mostly the warrior's since most assassins will be flanking and diving a backline you are not able to hit yet.