Stepping a bit outside my normal comfort zone of only queuing Conq with friends, I played 3 conquest games in a row last night (after getting off of PC Smite cuz Zilby had to sleep). Played the first as Sol in Mid. I did fine, played pretty intelligently (looking to win lane, rotate when opportunity knocks, etc.), but our team was hard-carried by Apollo (countered by our Serqet, who I don't think really did ANYthing). Geesh. That said, the game really shouldn't have gone on that long...but every time we'd wipe the team, I'd try heading over to the Fire Giant but damn if that PS4 VGS system is not familiar to me...people seriously ignore the GF and FG, and no one ever even attempted it. So it took us an absurdly long time to finish, and at one point got somewhat close to losing. Just couldn't get everyone to congregate and push together.
By the way, figured out how to call to attack FG...and just found this as well: http://imgur.com/a/4rrMH
I called Carry for the 2nd game, and decided I'd go with Sol again, because why not? She's a solid god, she's fun to play, and I need to get better with her (okay, that's most gods). Figured I'd build her more as an ADC this time and have fun with it.
Welp, found myself in lane with Izanami. *sigh* There went my farm. Other than 1 death when 4 of the enemy team decided to jump my lane, everything went well. At least the game ended pretty quickly (18 minute enemy surrender). But see, it's stuff like this that makes this really about going through the motions, rather than working on getting better.
In my last game, I called Carry again and chose Medusa (but didn't lock). Thank goodness, because I then saw what turned out to be a 2 man party choose and auto-lock Ares and Artemis. So awesome. Sure, Art did good damage against a pretty awful enemy team...but they went SOLO LANE, leaving Bacchus (why?) in the Duo lane. So I found myself going Jungle and helping on that side more often than not...by the way, does no one ever go through the normal starting process? I found myself alone in every match looking to clear the camps and get the buffs...clearing Speed by yourself is no fun, let me tell you...one good Health Potion got me back up to speed, but boy was I behind.
I have to say, Ratatoskr is pretty fun...other than a couple random Assault rolls on PC, I haven't played him at all. Earlier in the day, I had consulted with GameGeekFan, and also checked out SorenNoKitsune's guide briefly, so I guess I was leaning in that direction anyway.
The game went on for 42 minutes (again, everyone just wouldn't get together to push), so I had plenty of time to get a feel for him, and get comfortable with his combos and whatnot. This was my build...and yes, if you read through it, shows how stupid I am:
- Acorn of Yggdrasil (okay, I didn't follow the cardinal rule...had to back to heal up a few times, and because I had $$$, figured I'd work on Breastplate of Valor, and just max Acorn while I was out...but kept getting too hurt and having to back early, so my plan didn't work out too well. I now better understand maxing Acorn before even starting on anything else, I promise)
- Breastplate of Valor
- Jotunn's Wrath
- The Crusher (I saw soooo much opportunity to push on my own, so I went this way, and was happy I did...helps take down structures so quickly, and I never do this on PC)
- Titan's Bane
- Sold Breastplate of Valor for Mantle of Discord (let's pause here and see if you spot what happened.............................get it? Yeah, I switched out BoV for Mantle, but STILL HAD Bumba's Mask. Yup...totally missed that one, and when I realized it, SMH.)
- Replaced Bumba's Mask w/ Bulwark of Hope (kept getting low on health in fights, so really wanted something with a good health pool, and 2 magical enemies were actually hurting)
P.S. didn't mention on my previous blog, but a couple days ago when I played with GGF, newbie, and my wife's cousin, I had apparently not chosen a god for our first Siege match, so I had deserter penalty for 30 minutes...so I had the brilliant idea of a custom 2 v 2 joust match. I chose Athena, and Boognish chose Rama, and we proceeded to get absolutely DESTROYED by newbie ( Hel I think) and...I forget who GGF was. That definitely put me in my place.
While experimenting with the VGS, try to learn the most important things first.
Another thing: "R1" is tactics (VGS) - This means stuff like "Help", "Gank" and "Defend", etc..
"L1" is informative stuff (VGS) - Stuff like "Out of mana" and "Building stacks" can be found here.
Remember the "L1" and "R1" categories' general applications. That'll save you a lot of time really quickly when you're trying to warn your teammate (who 90% of the time won't listen anyway) about an incoming gank.
Almost every game..." Kukulkan, you should start on the right side...you too Bellona, you called Carry...no, everyone can't stay in Solo lane!!! Okay then, what role are you playing? No role? Okay, Ymir, I'll join you (as Ratatoskr)...I can be a squirrel ADC, whatever."
And yes, FYI, this game...It was I think the 3rd time in a row I called Jungle, and someone else proceeded to screw up the team comp. Other times, I'd fill as necessary, but this time I said screw it...no one else listens, I want to play Rat.
BTW...when minions are pushing on all sides, there's no way in hell I can push all lanes. I'm not good enough to carry a whole team =( I mean, I'm usually not good enough to carry mySELF (just ask our SF clan).
This is usually the case due to them thinking they're so much better than you and they believe that whatever they're doing is right, ultimately ending up screwing their team. It's more the fault of the players than the game.
This isn't just something PS4 only, though. It happens on Xbox and PC as well, no doubt. PC probably less since there you have a chat, which seems to help a bit.
It should get better as you progress in level and get teamed up with more skilled players. Up until that point though, it's either learning to live with it or gathering some friendlies to join you that you know do listen.
Oh and I believe you can carry yourself Bran. One day. And if you're every in doubt, think about that beautiful penta-kill you got a while back. That oughta cheer you up.
That said, I mean, for the most part, I'm carrying play, and directing more than not when people listen. I mean, thst's something I SHOULD be doing at the level I'm currently at, since I've got way more experience than the newer players.
But at that point, it was literally impossible for me to be in 3 places at once, which was what was needed to even get back to a position I could push an objective. My teammates kept going in solo and getting killed, while the enemy was grouping up a bit better...and so I'm scrambling to push minions back from left lane, then having to run to protect phoenix on the right, while the middle is being sort of held down by teammates, etc. etc.
So yeah...I couldn't carry...but still able to do well, and in that one game I linked, I was the only + player on my team. Couldn't do squat against that Nike though...I probably should have built more damage. But geez, that was a full physical enemy team...told my teammates they should build physical protection, etc. I also experimented with Shield of Regrowth (didn't notice anything from it honestly and probably didn't need the move speed at all) and got The Crusher again, just in the hopes of being able to push objectives at some point.
Cancel That!
Edit: On a side note, what control scheme do you use? I use the Savage layout myself, means I can use abilities without taking my thumb off the right stick to aim.
Sweet! If you want to add me to your friends list, my IGN is same as here...Branmuffin17.
As for control scheme...uh...what? #@)$(*^! there are control options?!? I apparently missed that, and now I've been getting used to the default controls. Ugh...I'm going to have to check that out, thanks for letting me know. LOL.
That meta is so stupid and I hate it seeing it often at SWC I don't get that the Support camps with the Jungler now is so stupid.
P.S.: Still sad that you have a P.O.S. Sony console rather than a XBone master race. R.I.P.
Also, I didn't have a choice between PS and XB...it was a Christmas gift, though I've always gone PS and still have a PS Plus membership (sorta free monthly games, yay!)
Xbox Master Race!!!
It does have the best controller ever though
Personally, I think the big issue is you are playing with people with low account levels. Looking at your matches everyone is between 5-16 it looks like. So I am guessing there is just a general lack of experience you are sadly apart of.
I would help you out some more, but damn you are on late and time difference doesn't help lol.
PS: For that 2v2 Joust GGF was Erlang Shen and yes I was Hel.
Well, as I'm still getting used to controls and whatnot, it's probably best I'm not pressured by significantly stronger players. Allows me to more comfortably play gods I normally don't play and maybe develop some new favorites...but I really should get a more competitive match in here and there, otherwise I'm going to develop some really bad habits.
And now, with this gameplay I'm seeing, I'm not all that concerned about split-pushing and taking down objectives without warding in the first place, and I don't get to work on developing better habits with sharing jungle camps...all these things that I really need work on...
And then, last night on PC, me being too aggressive with Bacchus Support early, leading to first death against Khepri and Chiron...just stuff I really should know better not to do. Hahaha...can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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