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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HollowsEdge » August 20, 2013 8:06pm | Report
Completely of topic but the buff they made to doom orb and heartseeker has made solo laneing soo much fun haha

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by LevasK » August 22, 2013 3:40am | Report
ICEN wrote:

Well I thought it was % first then flat pen was last?
Like for example Ao has obsidian shard I thought the % from obsidian would happen first then whatever flat pen he has after that.

And as far as calling AO a ******, I am ICEN I can call AO whatever I want because he was in fact a (******)

Why?

#1 he bought Doom orb and died twice and has no kills (wasted item and died its lost all stacks)
#2 He bought obsidian shard when vamana is the only one with more than 1 magic item. Also he was facing me mid so he should be more worried about me anyways and more worried about the people thats going to kill him not a stupid tank baby.
#3 Ao bought speed boots ON TOP OF ALL THAT ****!

So lets re-check what Ao did.
#1 wasted an item slot by losing all stacks on doom orb
#2 got a worst pen item based on my team and I was mid he was facing me
#3 On top of losing power from his orb and losing pen from the shard he LOST EVERYTHING by getting those boots.

Those boots give him 0% stats other than speed. It doesn't matter if he has 1000% speed I am agni and my dash will always be faster than his reaction.

Doom orb = waste item slot for him
Shard = less effective
Speed boots = wasted item slot for power sense he has no stacks


1)He died 2 times in a 32minute game if he completed Doom Orb as his first item then for the majority of the match he could have had it fully stacked easily.
2)Yes he got a sub optimal item same as with boots however that at best makes him new/inexperienced.
3)Since I was neither in your match nor your image shows him raging I couldn't know that.


I will assume that everything you said past the part that I quoted is just a silly joke.


Also you skipped my comment on bruiser Arachne.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 22, 2013 4:05am | Report
What comment on bruiser Arachne?

You assume that everyone who dies or does bad is New/inexperienced, there is no way they are putting me in a game with a level 1 (at least I hope).

He had the book so he had to know someone what of what he was doing. If he bought boots he must also realize that he is slow so he can't be nub of all nubs.

Its just that he took "the chance" but I get why he took the Doom Orb chance, but after getting pwnd you would think you would not keep "taking chances" as in buying items that keep making you less effective.

He took the chance with doom orb and ruined that chance. As you said its possible he can stack it back up but I have played games before where people simply do not stack it back up when they are forced to be in team fights,ect.

Then He took another chance of buying boots which give him no stats. He failed at that chance.

I really don't get why he got the shard since most Ao's use the tornado to harass.

If I am correct shard would only help you deal more damage on your 1 and ult but overall Ao is going to rely on his nado's more often.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by LevasK » August 22, 2013 4:17am | Report
Again you are putting words in my mouth. When did I say that any player who dies is new/inexperienced???
All I said was that perhaps ,because he is new that's why he built the way he did.Not necessarily new to the game maybe just new to Ao or maybe he was experimenting with different builds?.+ If you are playing only normals you can get matched with anyone from lvl 20 to 30 and getting to 30 doesn't take many games and it doesn't make you good/experienced at the game.

Shard is only better then Spear vs people with high MR it's not dependent on which skills he uses.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 22, 2013 6:08am | Report
Actually it is dependent on which skill he uses (Prove me wrong if I am but I think I'm not)
- Because I was doing alot of testing with Pen

This is what happened when I tested out shard and Spear from before.
(this does not include if you have 200000000000defense of course shard will then be better)

Spear = Does more damage with ticking abilities suck as agni's dash.
Shard = Does more damage with instant damage abilities such as agni's flame wave/ult.

Again I guess this was right but if you can prove me wrong so I know if its not.

All I know is when I was testing it the spear does more damage ASSUMING they don't have a bunch bunch of defense.

I am saying even with NO DEFENSE the shard is better than spear on abilities that do not do tick/dot damage.

Thats why on agni you can either pick both.
Spear will allow your dash to do more damage and shard allows for better damage on flame wave ect.

No ticks happen on flame wave so the spear does not give any better pen then if you used shard.

So from my test It looked like it is dependent on which skill you use.

So sense AO uses his nados I would expect someone to use spear being that I do not have 200000million defense for them to really need shard.

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