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Are Mages too powerful right now, or becoming too powerful?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sasquatch180 » August 13, 2014 6:25pm | Report
Just a random question/thought, but does it feel like Mages are a bit too powerful at the moment?

It just feels like many of them have so many upsides now that the their negatives are for the most part insignificant.

They have the power to burst down tanks, many of them can get rid of potential mana problems about the second time they go back to base, and the latest trend of giving them all super speed or mobility makes them able to easily escape or chase down enemies.

And a lot of their AoE abilities are so damaging on fairly low cooldowns.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HiFromBuddha » August 14, 2014 1:50am | Report
Mages aren't so much too powerful right now, but rather fundamentally flawed and lacking in variety.

Fun fact: In Smite, there is no mage that does not have a ridiculous amount of burst. There are no other types of mages in Smite apart from burst. There are no sustained damage mages, there are no utility mages other than the old Nu Wa which now does not exist. There is a huge lack of variety in mages because all they do is burst to different levels. The only picks that are good now are the ones that can offer a bit more than just their ridiculous burst (Isis, Janus) or simply have burst that is higher damaging and more reliable than that of the others (He Bo, Ao Kuang).

Of course, whether the amount of burst they deal and how reliably they deal it is too much is up to debate, I feel like that considering the scope of the power creep in this game, that it is on par with what the rest of the top tier picks can do.

Mages as a whole just need to be revised. There is no difference in function between mages. They can all push, they can all offer a bit of utility, but mainly, they all do ridiculous, over the top amounts of burst. There needs to be same spice. Maybe there should be a mage that is taky and does heavy sustained damage and belongs in a middle of a fight, simply being there and accumulating damage as the fights goes on. Or perhaps there should be some heavily utility focused mage that offers some cc and peel for the important carries, but is lacking in damage (Aphrodite fulfils this to an extent, but there needs to be more of this kind).
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sasquatch180 » August 14, 2014 2:02am | Report
Personally based on Zeus's kit I've kinda figured he'd be more of a "Brawler" mage.

I mean sure he is bursty, but just using Detonate every time you get the three charges feels like a bit of a waste considering he does extra damage on his AAs.

If he wasn't so squishy he could probably fit that category fairly well.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Romanians » August 14, 2014 4:17am | Report
But they're also relying on combos and cooldowns, they're also usually escapeless and their combo/abilities can be countered by actives.

Mages too strong? A mage player would say the same thing about uncounterable hunters and assassins with Fatalis or Greater Sprint, each class is eachother's counter.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Nex The Slayer » August 14, 2014 4:31am | Report
HiFromBuddha wrote:

Mages aren't so much too powerful right now, but rather fundamentally flawed and lacking in variety.

Fun fact: In Smite, there is no mage that does not have a ridiculous amount of burst. There are no other types of mages in Smite apart from burst. There are no sustained damage mages, there are no utility mages other than the old Nu Wa which now does not exist. There is a huge lack of variety in mages because all they do is burst to different levels. The only picks that are good now are the ones that can offer a bit more than just their ridiculous burst (Isis, Janus) or simply have burst that is higher damaging and more reliable than that of the others (He Bo, Ao Kuang).

Of course, whether the amount of burst they deal and how reliably they deal it is too much is up to debate, I feel like that considering the scope of the power creep in this game, that it is on par with what the rest of the top tier picks can do.

Mages as a whole just need to be revised. There is no difference in function between mages. They can all push, they can all offer a bit of utility, but mainly, they all do ridiculous, over the top amounts of burst. There needs to be same spice. Maybe there should be a mage that is taky and does heavy sustained damage and belongs in a middle of a fight, simply being there and accumulating damage as the fights goes on. Or perhaps there should be some heavily utility focused mage that offers some cc and peel for the important carries, but is lacking in damage (Aphrodite fulfils this to an extent, but there needs to be more of this kind).


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by OGBlackPanther » August 14, 2014 6:46am | Report
HiFromBuddha wrote:

Mages aren't so much too powerful right now, but rather fundamentally flawed and lacking in variety.

Fun fact: In Smite, there is no mage that does not have a ridiculous amount of burst. There are no other types of mages in Smite apart from burst. There are no sustained damage mages, there are no utility mages other than the old Nu Wa which now does not exist. There is a huge lack of variety in mages because all they do is burst to different levels. The only picks that are good now are the ones that can offer a bit more than just their ridiculous burst (Isis, Janus) or simply have burst that is higher damaging and more reliable than that of the others (He Bo, Ao Kuang).

Of course, whether the amount of burst they deal and how reliably they deal it is too much is up to debate, I feel like that considering the scope of the power creep in this game, that it is on par with what the rest of the top tier picks can do.

Mages as a whole just need to be revised. There is no difference in function between mages. They can all push, they can all offer a bit of utility, but mainly, they all do ridiculous, over the top amounts of burst. There needs to be same spice. Maybe there should be a mage that is taky and does heavy sustained damage and belongs in a middle of a fight, simply being there and accumulating damage as the fights goes on. Or perhaps there should be some heavily utility focused mage that offers some cc and peel for the important carries, but is lacking in damage (Aphrodite fulfils this to an extent, but there needs to be more of this kind).

Technically Chang'e isn't much of a burst mage.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » August 14, 2014 7:22am | Report
you got burst or healing mage
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » August 14, 2014 12:32pm | Report
Devampi wrote:

you got burst or healing mage


Would be nice to get more healers. Been wanting more for a long time, ever since they nerfed the **** out of Chang'e's healing and added damages to it.
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