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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » December 18, 2013 7:07am | Report
So what have you guys been doing with this new god. I tried him both bruiser and tanky.
After playing him this is what I think of him.

I think his healing is a bit strong. Its almost better than Hercules heal. Actually it IS better than his heal in some ways. Hercules gets more heal by taking damage but Chaacs initial heal is just so good compared to the heal Hercules gets when his heal starts ticking back up (before damaged heal comes back). Maybe I am seeing things but it looks like Chaacs heal brings his hp almost all the way up to half hp!!! That is alot of freaking hp at least in game it seemed like alot when I watched my hp regain from half way to pretty much full hp. So on his healing aspect I think its a bit too good compared to other gods if nobody is attacking him. I can imagine in solo lane his hp will almost never be low.

His damage is pretty high on his hammer throw. Even when playing tanky I can get a decent bit of damage if you build some pen like void blade/titans bane along with the rest of your tank items. He scales a good bit to where you only need 1-2 attack items to deal a decent amount of damage with his 1 even when the rest of your items are tank items.

Tanky - He is very hard to kill if you build him tanky but its also hard for you to get kills with your ult since it already does sort of low damage and you won't maximize your scaling.

Damage/bruiser - This is obviously his best played style since his scaling agrees with it. You do seem to die quick at times though for a bruiser so don't think because you pop your heal you can fight anyone I learned the hard way :D

Rage/Malic - I actually like this item on him, its pretty stronk IMO on Chaac. I played a match where I was like 0-6 from being stupid, once I got rage/malice I literally started getting all my kills and I went 6-8. Ya thats 2 negative but that rage/malice brought me up 6 kills in a few minutes. I think this item is stronk because other than your skills you can't do much, you have no CC so your basic attacks need to count and your ult sets you up for crits.

Thoughts/Tips/Ideas/strategy
- I am wondering if Chaac gets double HP regen when you activate two of his 3's because if so that **** is ****ing cheat OP. I thought of this in game but nobody knew if this works. If you can indeed do this it will literally be OP, because my basic heal lets me regen like half hp.

- save the hammer, yes we must all learn it because we get too eager to play with our new god that we start spamming everything thinking we are invincible! Ya I learned to just save the hammer and 2 for escaping.

- You have to wait for your turn to fight, basically you have no CC so you can't just waste your 2 to go in for a kill because that will get you killed. I tried it and learned that I got raped so that lesson was covered. Pretty much see him as sitting back and only engaging a target or two then getting back out. He cannot just jump in an entire team and fight them.

- Use your heal before you teleport to your hammer. I realized after 2 games I should just use the heal before fighting and not while fighting. For some reason when fighting it seemed as if his heal didn't want to start working so I had to keep pressing it.

- Cheating hammer teleport damage cheat, since you do extra damage from running into things while teleporting/dashing to your hammer, I thought to use this on buffs/gods. Throw your hammer right behind them and then line yourself up so your dash goes through them doing extra damage at the same time using your 2 for that damage.

- Ult only with hammer down, this is important and this is why I like rage/malice on him. His ult does kind of low damage so its really only useful for the knockup when your hammer is down. After the knockup rage/malice lets you get crits off.

He isn't too stronk, hes only stronk in some ways but has a hard time getting into fights if there is no initiation. I say this because if you initiate with his hammer dash then you will have no escape, and if you are not building tanky you will die. I found myself having to choose and pick who to fight alot, things you don't have to do with other bruisers that have CC to knock people around then get out.

The only thing I think is kind of too good is his heal, it heals too much even on high levels I was watching my hp go to full hp from half hp. His hammer does do alot of damage but its kind of needed because other than that he doesn't do anything special. Thats why I like rage/malice

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » December 18, 2013 7:45am | Report
I feel like Chaac is just another herc with an OP heal that can also slow.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » December 18, 2013 8:13am | Report
MadDanny wrote:

I feel like Chaac is just another herc with an OP heal that can also slow.
YES! Maybe thats why I like him!

LOL he has the other OP part of the heal gods and Hercules owns the other OP part of the heal gods :D Basically the way I see it is there are 4 types of heals.

Types of heals

Ticking AOE heal - this is the heal Ra has, where you have to stand inside of a AOE to get your heal up.

Instant heal - This is what change/guan yu, ect, has. This gives you instant heal with no wait.

Ticking heal No AOE - this is the heal Chaac has and hercules partially has, this heal ticks up HP and you don't have to stand in any AOE to get HP it just ticks up.

Damage heal - when you damage or land an attack you get HP back usually instant hp.

Damage recovery heal - This is the heal herc has, damage is turned into heal over a period of time.

Hercules and Chaac have the opposite sides of heals.
Chaac gets the ticking no AOE heal while Hercules heals mainly from damage taken.
Yes Hercules gets a tiny amount of ticking no AOE heal but not as much as Chaac.

Chaac's ticking heal is 4x better than hercules ticking no damage taken heal.
Hercules obviously has a good heal when taking damage.
BUT - Chaac can always get ALOT of hp back where as Hercules HAS to take damage if he wants to get as much hp as Chaac can get.

So IMO Chaac has a better overall heal, although when fighting Hercules heal is superior, but when not taking damage Chaac is way better.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » December 18, 2013 8:16am | Report
I'm betting the they'll remove the phy contribution to chaac's heal or at least reduce it to maybe 5%. It's already OP if it's at 15%, that's to much healing while pounding on someone who is slowed by the rain.

At least for herc it's when his taking damage. Just wait for it to go when he puts it up Chaac on the other hand is different.

Also Chaac's 1 and 2 combo reminds me of Bastet's 1. But only backwards lol. You can only use it as a set up with your ult maybe. Ult in then dash out. Perfect for tower diving.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » December 18, 2013 8:20am | Report
like how I went 10-0 with him easy after I understood how to play him...

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » December 18, 2013 8:32am | Report
Well, ICEN, if you like Chaac that much, then you should write a guide for him. Just a suggestion, it would be interesting to see you writing a guide, haha.

And yeah, his heal is pretty strong, specially combined with the Axe.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TormentedTurnip » December 18, 2013 8:35am | Report
NO DARKJAW, NO!

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Talenhiem » December 18, 2013 8:41am | Report
Looking at his kit, he seems like a support assassin to me, like a physical version of support mages. I recommend the jungling meta position to him: his ganks seem solid (1+3+2, ult if you have to), his damage is pretty high, he'll benefit from the kills (unlike Loki - being fed does nothing to him) and not useless in teamfights. I forsee a high-tiered, situational jungler in this god.

Also, is his 3 a team heal, or a self heal? the description for it didnt really specify.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » December 18, 2013 8:41am | Report

NO DARKJAW, NO!


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 18, 2013 9:40am | Report
I've seen like four people try to jump to his axe through walls to get away today and nothing happens, then they die. So funny.

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