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I think this whole case of people crying over his tornadoes is similar to people crying over Chang'e's healing when that really wasn't her problem at all.. It's just what you notice the most.

And his tornadoes are not that big of an issue. If you're even halfway aware of your surroundings, you can get out of them and avoid them. They take ~.75s to even trigger in the first place. If you've been slowed by his Squall and get hit by one, then that's you're fault for being in that position to allow him to slow you. His tornado is literally his only defense and zoning ability. If you nerf it, you'll ruin him for being a META mid.

Learn to play against it, don't scream nerf it because you don't want to deal with it. He's basically an area deterrent god and that's it. You don't see many AKs carrying teams in conquest, because it's more or less impossible for him to get in close to teamfights without risking being insta-gibbed due to his lack of real escape and low speed. He has his 2, but he can be hard CC'd out of it and still doesn't move all that fast.

If you want to nerf Ao Kuang's tornadoes, you might as well nerf Agni's ult to only be able to shoot twice because it would be the equivalent amount of crippling.

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They aren't discussing nerfing Ao, this discussion is more about the recent buffs going too far, which is pretty fair considering he was perfectly viable BEFORE the buffs came into effect. It was much fairer to counter-play Ao when his skills were slower. Basically he's become faster and retained his massive magic power, meaning that his burst potential [which was already amongst the best] has got even better.

It is now also significantly harder to counter-play his tornadoes, because they're practically instantaneous with massive damage and a good area. Basically, if he targets you even without slowing, he stands a much better chance of hitting you. That would be fine if his tornado skill wasn't as potent as it is. There was no need to buff him at all because he was always a potent god. which is what is in dispute here.

Just fyi as someone who has played Ao a fair amount pre-buff, it was already pretty easy to land his skills in succession. This just makes him a much easier god to play; a much harder god to play against. Again, considering he was already one of the most potent mages, I don't think the buff was justified at all.

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The tornadoes aren't the problem as much as his 1 and ult. His ult hits super hard, is easy to hit multiple people with late game, and it comes out so fast that it's extra deadly against melee gods/anyone who gets in AK's face. His 1 is relatively easy to land, and it chains perfectly into whatever you want to follow up with. His 3 makes him a safe lane clearer/siege defender. If that was his whole role, there wouldn't be any issue.

Buffs to are a big reason why is non-viable in ranked right now. Spirit's Tempest is just better than when it comes to consistent damage, area control, easiness to land in a team fight, hitting multiple people, defense. Why zone with a whirlpool when you can zone with a tornado that just has to tick once to get all of its (huge) damage done, and why use a 1 that's a knockback when you have a 1 that slows to the point of basically being a stun? Poseidon used to be top tier, and AK is now better than him in every way. The topic is about whether the buffs have gone too far, so that fact needs to be kept in perspective.

That said, I still put him as 4th best mid. For the love of all the gods, please nerf , and . Stop trying to 'balance' other mages when those 3 are so strong and throwing any hope of balance off ;_;

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You guys catch on to whats been happening in ranked right?
People can't make up their minds of who is viable over who any more, people are like riding on the next god that gets buff then they will go ride on the next god who gets a buff thinking because they got a .00001 cooldown reduction that they are somehow more viable now :D

Ah I love ranked people because they switch up their viable gods so much, I recall when zeus was thought of as weak ..... even though I always seen him as a stronk **** head that got on my nerves. Now they love him.

Just wait for Anubis's turn then watch people explain how he is magically viable because he has a long range CC....... then I will legit come back here and say where have you been he always had this long rage CC that could be usefull in fights... guess people ain't smart enough yet for it.

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There's a little bit of a flavor of the week effect, but that's hardly everything. The game is still in beta, and each patch changes some significant things. had fallen out of favor because his skillshots are hard, but changes to made it harder to see his ganks from GF/FG. That change happened at the same time when Thor got a mini-buff on his 1. People started playing Thor more for the meta change that losing super wards brought than they did for 2 less seconds of CD on his 1.

didn't become overpowered overnight either. He had a lot of weaknesses, and HiRez just buffed and buffed and buffed him until he had the highest burst damage in the game, wave clear, a stun, and a strong escape. If had his base damage on every skill doubled, his 3 added a silence and his 1 gave him protections and damage reflection, he would be viable in ranked as well. That's basically what happened with Zeus.

The balance in the game gets shifted easily. going from god tier to mid tier because he loses the healing on his ult isn't flavor of the week, it's just how tight the balance is.

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I got no personal problem with Kuang, BUT the only thing i dont like is he is way too overplayed! in 2/3 matches there is a kuang

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I've been concerned with kuang for a while now. I always hated zeus, and was suprised people still laughed at him as bad. This discussion is about whether the dragon needed the many buffs he got. The crowd is very strange, like how people only ever seem to play a god if the pros approve it.

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If Ao Kuang got a buff to his base movement speed, he would be played by everyone, all the time.

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