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Forum » General Discussion » Junlgers who don't tank jungle buffs STOP IT! 23 posts - page 1 of 3
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 30, 2013 9:20pm | Report
I feel that this thread is a MUST for anyone who jungles.
I hate junglers who do not tank the jungle buffs at the start of the game and instead you all sit and have a argument of whos going to tank the buff.

Listen up!

If your a junlger then YOU are the one who should be tanking the buffs!!!
YOU are the one with BUMBA'S MASK not us!

YOU will get your hp back VERY fast from Bumba's Mask and if your team helps you, you probably will get back FULL HP if you all clear it fast.

Nothing pisses me off more than a jungler who refuses to tank a buff when they will get their hp right back unlike the rest of the team who doesn't have bumba's mask.

It doesn't matter if you are squishy, you are the jungler and its YOUR JOB, you will get your hp right back so there is no need to make your team tank it when they will have to waste health pots and it will hurt them in lane.

Also, STAND STILL DAMMIT!!!
Junlgers need to learn to just stand still so we can take the buffs quicker instead of having to aim around for the jungle buff creeps moving because the jungler thinks he can dodge all the hits when hes pretty much still going to get hit either way!

So my advice to junlgers so you stop pissing your team mates off and make the game faster and easier.

#1 Tank the damn buff, your the junlger its your job and you'll get your hp back anyways
#2 Stand still so we can clear the damn buff faster and not have to chase it around

Was that so hard? You have almost full hp and everyone is happy and got to lane fast without wasting their hp pots!

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sunfall » October 31, 2013 12:39am | Report
You do realize junglers, particularly very early on, will lose most of their HP tanking buff creeps unless they have two or more allies helping them clear? Having Bumba's Mask isn't a good excuse for most junglers to tank creeps and lose unnecessary health that they need to survive creeps and keep their HP up whenever Hand of the Gods is down. Also remember that Bumba's gives no stats, so the jungler doesn't really have damage mitigation like a tank or bruiser might.

Most of the time, two of my teammates (usually the mid and solo, or both of the duo) will help me clear the red buff if I'm jungling, then we split up, one of them follows me to the blue buff. I almost always HotG this one if it's for the solo laner since neither of us can really afford much of a beating. I've never heard anyone complain that I should be taking the aggro beause when done like this, very little damage is taken by anyone.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 31, 2013 1:16am | Report
When I jungle I GET ALMOST FULL HP back with EASE.
No execuse when you have a team that helps... thats WTF bumbas mask is for is so you tank the damage not so your team mates go back to lane with half hp.

I will take my hp over my junlgers ANY DAY

I start off side camps team helps will kill it easy I got full hp.
From there its usually me and 2 people clearing out the next two buffs I HAVE ALMOST FULL HP STILL.

Like I said no excuse for someone not to tank when your team is there with you.
NO EXCUSE

Nothing you say can make me say otherwise because BUMBAS MASK is in this game for that reason.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 31, 2013 1:43am | Report
Sunfall wrote:

You do realize junglers, particularly very early on, will lose most of their HP tanking buff creeps unless they have two or more allies helping them clear? Having Bumba's Mask isn't a good excuse for most junglers to tank creeps and lose unnecessary health that they need to survive creeps and keep their HP up whenever Hand of the Gods is down. Also remember that Bumba's gives no stats, so the jungler doesn't really have damage mitigation like a tank or bruiser might.

Most of the time, two of my teammates (usually the mid and solo, or both of the duo) will help me clear the red buff if I'm jungling, then we split up, one of them follows me to the blue buff. I almost always HotG this one if it's for the solo laner since neither of us can really afford much of a beating. I've never heard anyone complain that I should be taking the aggro beause when done like this, very little damage is taken by anyone.

Both you and icen are right. If the jungler does all the first buffs alone he dies but if he gets help from just 1 person he won't end up lower then half health at the blue buff and then heals him self up till atleast 4/5 health.

The point is that he can tank it all with ease but he just needs help of the side laner(s) and he won't run out of health.

The tank or carry can't heal that much. The carry will die and the only way the tank can tank it is with mark o vanguard but he won't be able to heal that up like the jungler.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Firraria » October 31, 2013 2:52am | Report
ICEN wrote:

I feel that this thread is a MUST for anyone who jungles.
I hate junglers who do not tank the jungle buffs at the start of the game and instead you all sit and have a argument of whos going to tank the buff.

Listen up!

If your a junlger then YOU are the one who should be tanking the buffs!!!
YOU are the one with BUMBA'S MASK not us!

YOU will get your hp back VERY fast from Bumba's Mask and if your team helps you, you probably will get back FULL HP if you all clear it fast.

Nothing pisses me off more than a jungler who refuses to tank a buff when they will get their hp right back unlike the rest of the team who doesn't have bumba's mask.

It doesn't matter if you are squishy, you are the jungler and its YOUR JOB, you will get your hp right back so there is no need to make your team tank it when they will have to waste health pots and it will hurt them in lane.

Also, STAND STILL DAMMIT!!!
Junlgers need to learn to just stand still so we can take the buffs quicker instead of having to aim around for the jungle buff creeps moving because the jungler thinks he can dodge all the hits when hes pretty much still going to get hit either way!

So my advice to junlgers so you stop pissing your team mates off and make the game faster and easier.

#1 Tank the damn buff, your the junlger its your job and you'll get your hp back anyways
#2 Stand still so we can clear the damn buff faster and not have to chase it around

Was that so hard? You have almost full hp and everyone is happy and got to lane fast without wasting their hp pots!


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 31, 2013 4:33am | Report
The main point I am trying to make is somewhat of what ALL4GAMES touched on.

Its that nobody else can heal up the lost health but the jungler can.
Healing will require someone to be willing to waste a health pot when the junlger can instead just heal back up almost all hp without using any health pots at all.

- If your team isn't helping you of course you will DIE or be SUPER LOW HP

BUT

- if you have 2 team mates helping you like any normal team mates do after getting side camps then not only does the junlger get all most all hp back but nobody waste a health pot.

Would you rather
A: Have
- Junlger full hp but at the cost of having your side lane or mid lane now have low hp, be forced to use their only health pot and be put at a disadvantage because of it.

or
B: Have your jungler heal up with bumba's mask and thats it all your team mates are at full hp and have all health pots to use.

B is a win win, it has no downsides at all, its faster, saves pots, and everyone is pretty much full hp EVEN THE JUNGLER.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » October 31, 2013 4:43am | Report
If you got bumbas, tank the camp!
unless you are doing it with a tank that doesn't have hog, if the tank doesn't do his job it's his fault and he should take the hit for it. Because he won't take much damage anyways and he got a good hp5 to get it back with.

If you let a lets say Agni tank blue for you and you don't even have a hog for the camp you might not lose any health, but you got an Agni with 50% health and a lane that is lost before the laning phase even starts.

So as long as the teammate you are doing it with got dps (he is a adc, mage or a tank with hog) you tank, if it is a God with heals (hel, Ra etc) or a tank that can take the damage (Sobek, Odin etc) and refused to get hog let him tank.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by RazeMage » October 31, 2013 4:57am | Report
Me, as a non-Jungler likes to tank damage because it pretty much helps them (you can double rotate the jungle when your teammates tank the damage)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » October 31, 2013 5:42am | Report
Me, as a jungler and someone who often plays a tank, I can understand how annoying it is to be forced to lose a lot of your health, but depending on the jungler and my team, I can tank it if necessary. Even if I lose a lot of health, good team support helps a lot.

But if you are a tank with Mark, then it's simply polite to tank it for them, since it is simply more efficient for you to take most of the damage.

That said, it is incredibly annoying when some mages actually tank it when you don't want them to. I had an Anubis tank the blue buff (spent HoG on red), and he was at 1/2 health. He didn't even blame me, he just stuck to his lane and died early. He still kicked *** and recovered, but if he was less skilled, it could've been ugly.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 31, 2013 5:47am | Report
this is common sense people....

you either heal back almost all your hp with ease

or you

either be a **** and let someone like apollo tank damage

I JUNGLE AND ALWAYS TANK DAMAGE
It doesn't matter if I am anubis or Hun Batz playing jungle.

#1 I start at side camps we take it with ease I still have full hp and so does my team
#2 We usually go for red or speed depending on which side you are on.
#3 When at speed I tank the damage and stand still so we can clear it with no stupid trying to chase the creeps around
#4 we clear speed or red VERY FAST because of this and I regain all my hp back
#5 from there people will either go to their lanes or help out with one more buff which you just do the same thing

COMMON SENSE
You can stay high hp and take nearly all the buffs...

this ain't magic its called bumbas mask

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