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who do we balence after nemesis?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » March 13, 2014 9:55am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Besides Tyr, does Guan Yu need a look at?

i don't think guan needs it. he has a heal but its not trubo 1% back to a 100% heal and while his 3 does a ton of damage he can't use his basics and is semi silenced while it is going so it balence's its self. his ult is fine because it is sort of hard to controll so i don't think guan needs anything.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » March 13, 2014 10:31am | Report
Actually, I don't think increasing Tyr's speed is needed. He's already incredibly tough to kill due to being tanky and fast as hell, he doesn't need more speed.

Why not just lower his damage numbers? Seriously (BTW, I think Tyr was once called an assassin). His max heal is 365 + 150% of physical power; that scaling should be reduced to maybe 120-90%.

As for his base tankiness, eh, it's okay. He's a warrior, just like Hercules and Odin.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Jordenito » March 13, 2014 11:21am | Report
I agree. Tyr seems fine to me. Maybe could use a little nerf like Sub suggested, but not a buff, and a speed buff... particularly not.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » March 13, 2014 12:00pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Actually, I don't think increasing Tyr's speed is needed. He's already incredibly tough to kill due to being tanky and fast as hell, he doesn't need more speed.

Why not just lower his damage numbers? Seriously (BTW, I think Tyr was once called an assassin). His max heal is 365 + 150% of physical power; that scaling should be reduced to maybe 120-90%.

As for his base tankiness, eh, it's okay. He's a warrior, just like Hercules and Odin.

the speed buff would just be for his abilities. not movement speed.

the idea behind it is to make fearless a bit stronger and harder to juke and the speed buff for his ult is to not force blink on tyr. in return he would get a damage nerf and a protection nerf. he may have the same base tankyness as herc and odin but he suddenly gets another 60 protections from his 3 by existing. that is what makes him overly tanky.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » March 13, 2014 12:27pm | Report
I know it's for his abilities, and I still stand by my point; Tyr is already fast, doesn't need more speed. Same for jukability; he doesn't need to expand his effective area.

As for Lawbringer, it does its job of being a hell of a lot more versatile than blink (3), and it has a huge range. I want to avoid increasing unavoidable AoE damage.

Also, he gains only 40 protections while in Guard Stance, not 60, not to mention it doesn't have much of an impact until late game, where Tyr's damage begins to fall off, not to mention it only applies while in Guard Stance.

Other than his heal, I think he's good.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » March 13, 2014 3:31pm | Report
I disagree with you. Okay just 40 protections (i made a rough guess).

Lawbringer may be a huge aoe but it does very little damage and is met as initiation. One probleme, blink out classes it completely as initiation which is lawbringer's main thing other then being an escape. Him not being forced into blink would basicly grant him complete viability since he is also able to hold the solo lane down. Which is why i also say nerf some of his unkillableness and high damage.

Less heal, less base protections and less %scaling.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » March 13, 2014 4:11pm | Report
Tyr is already a well-balanced god, IMO. He's not weak, he's not worthless, like Ares, and he doesn't need a change. Nor is he insanely strong; his healing is on par with other bruisers like Chaac and Hercules. Actually, a little less than Herc, but he beats everyone in healing anyway.

Basically, my problem is that I don't see a problem.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by fadellity » March 13, 2014 4:49pm | Report
I'm just not a fan on how Herc can literally heal for even more than the damage he takes. He's already tanky enough, having him be able to heal for more than the damage he took over a given period of time is unnecessary. I think the heal at max rank should be 100%, not 120%, but that's just my opinion. Maybe the reason I don't like Hercules that much is because he counters pretty much every god I like, but still, I find him tough to deal with.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Chiulin » March 13, 2014 4:54pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Tyr is already a well-balanced god, IMO. He's not weak, he's not worthless, like Ares, and he doesn't need a change. Nor is he insanely strong; his healing is on par with other bruisers like Chaac and Hercules. Actually, a little less than Herc, but he beats everyone in healing anyway.

Basically, my problem is that I don't see a problem.


Then there is wukong who has to wait 120 seconds and waste his ult to heal what Tyr/Her/Chaac can every 15 to 20 seconds. Poor wukong. We still love you buddy. :c

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » March 13, 2014 5:16pm | Report
If Tyr gets you with his Fearless and Power Cleave combo mid-late game and you're bit squishy you're practically a goner. Especially with his chase ability of just switching stances and using Fearless again. I think Tyr justs need a heal reduction on his Power Cleave.

Aaaaaaand Guan Yu, I think he's one of the most balanced gods in the game. His combo is pretty good and if you have any CC other than knockback, it will interrupt his Taolu Assault, which is his main damaging ability. He has chase and sustain but I don't think he requires a nerf or anything. Another thing, Guan Yu is pretty bad early game :/.

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