Welp. I played my very first Ranked Conquest game ever. Honestly could have gone a lot worse, but boy did I feel a lot more pressure than normal. Didn't play very well, but I sort of expected that.
Only one other was actively talking/using the new in-game voice chat. And he was complaining (not unjustified I'm sure) a lot. He was our best player ( Ao Kuang), and without him, we definitely would have lost. Other than 2 others that were also playing qualifying matches, the spread of players consisted mostly of Silver division.
Keep in mind, the entire ranked experience was new to me, with the banning and all.
If you didn't notice until now...yup, my team had 4 freaking magical gods.
I decided to use my Devo's / Crit build, rather than the Trans build. Why? It's generally my preference, and because I had a brain fart and was thinking while first considering the enemy team's composition that I'd look to build Witchblade to counter the many enemies that have basic attack functions in their kits. Didn't do that in the end, realizing that it would be building double-lifesteal at the time I was going to get it, so decided to just go for The Crusher instead. Also forgot to switch out Warrior Tabi for Ninja Tabi. Oops. Probably should have gone with the Trans build, and subbed Witchblade in for Asi. Oh well.
Actual gameplay starts at around 10:30. In the early game, we started at our power buff, which I took. In lane, I don't know if I was playing very timidly, but should have kept attacking the minions for a bit longer...was scared of Rama, and when I saw Artio incoming, I backed off. And overall, I was just consistently pushed back. At least I played a bit smarter than normal and didn't feed.
My first death was found because I didn't have an aggressive ward up, and I entered the jungle from the middle rather than my defensive area.
Didn't get my first kill until almost 28 minutes in.
Throughout the rest of the match, forgot to ward sometimes even though I always had them on hand (normal), went in first and/or solo on some fights that I obviously shouldn't have, and didn't focus objectives sometimes from the distraction of enemy presence.
That said, again...it could have been worse.
Ended at 12/6/15 in a 45 minute win. Took us a while, and there were a lot of swings in the match. On my team, Kukulkan and Ao Kuang outdamaged me...I had 32k damage. My ADC counterpart also heftily outdamaged me with almost 50k damage. But I didn't feed, came out with more kills than deaths, placed 8 wards (should have been way more though), and did the most objective damage with 6,404.
Build Critiques
Ganesha was fine with the Urchin 2nd, I think. Partially physical to counter the physical gods, but they also had 3 magical gods, so it was important to have both. Shogun's wasn't all that necessary...sure it helps me (and Ao), but other items would probably have been better...like Midgardian Mail to counter their attack speed. Late choices of Sovereignty and Heartward Amulet didn't fit well...
Kukulkan looked fine. No lifesteal is interesting (would figure he might get Polynomicon), but looks like it worked out. Nice to see he didn't overload on CDR.
For me, as I said, I was comfortable with what I got, but probably could have gone Trans and possibly done better, especially if I also got Witchblade.
Kuzenbo]] looked like he had a solid build overall, though I probably wouldn't suggest Spear of Desolation for him.
Ao Kuang got an early Poly, which I'd normally say might be a bit early (hi newb, yeah I'm thinking of you with The Morrigan), but he was pretty deadly.
Kali was a mess. Didn't get Hastened Katana, got both Qin's Sais (good) and Wind Demon (not good, especially without getting 2x crit if you commit at all to crit, which she generally shouldn't), got Frostbound Hammer instead (I mean, okay that's like a defensive version of Katana, sorta)...and finished with Shogun's Kusari (which is actually not 100% terrible since it provides attack speed and it's a counter to 4 of her 5 enemies. That said, Shogun's probably not recommended in most cases.
Nox got a fairly early Obsidian Shard (like our Ao, at 3rd position)...that's okay I guess. Again, building against us by sacrificing some power for a protection item. Guess that's okay in this specific case, but still. Also, finished with Spear of the Magus, which makes Obsidian Shard somewhat inefficient.
Chronos was also a mess. 2 attack speed items, 2 ability-based items, and inefficiency via the combo of Demonic Grip and Obsidian Shard. Also got Bancroft's Talon, which is maybe unnecessary since he has healing in his kit, along with his ult.
Rama...seriously, what's with these combos of The Executioner and Titan's Bane? It's not like our team was overly tanky! Interesting also that he went Qin's instead of crit, but that's okay. Order is a bit weird though...I probably would get Exe before Qin's. Part of him outpushing me is his early Devo's before Boots...If I'd looked at the stat screen, I could have spotted that...but not sure I would've gone in anyway. He also has an escape, and that Artio just has too much early damage.
1 down, 9 to go, if I can survive this...seriously, people take it way too seriously.
GL with them. I decided to do my LoL placements during the vacation. hit S5 it would probably be several tiers higher because you will always end up lower so you can climb and don't get discouraged
First I have to say I hope to see more of this! :)
Second, WHAT THE ACTUAL **** is your keybindings (I thought my bindings where weird)?
Third, I'm so glad that none in EU uses the ingame voice chat. I would have tilted so hard if I had to listen to that Ao guy >_< (like why wouldn't you fight at 45 min in that corridor? It was the perfect spot for a medusa ult and the turtle. But some ppl can only think about what they can do in a fight I guess. So when it wasn't a perfect fight for Ao, you shouldn't do it...) It would have been so fun if Ao lost you the game by chasing that Kali kill at 52 min!
Gameplay critiques
Remember to use your clear after Turn of Fate the extra damage is pretty important
When going for that start (red, wave, purple) you have to have the better wave clear. So it could have worked if you had Bluestone Pendant and utilized Turn of Fate, although you did play it correctly on that wave. So not sure why you did like 0,2 damage to the archers :p
You could play more aggressive 1v1, like at 30 min. No need to run all the way back.
Try and AA more in fights, instead of waiting for the perfect ability hit.
Remember that you can ult to immune stuff like Stop Time. At 34 min, you could have just ulted and turned on him probably.
Remember to buy redpot :P
Use sprint more aggressive
All in all, a solid performance. Just a bit to passive, but you weren't so passive that you lost the game. You just did less damage than you could have done.
And also IMO ward less, especially if you are going to play passive (like you did in this game, and as I ALWAYS do when I play ADC). Unless you are against something like a Thor or Thanatos you do not need wards at all unless you are going to fight the enemy ADC.
So watch the map (anyone missing? where is your jungler? where do you think the enemy jungler is etc.), clear wave, run back to tower. If you want to play aggressive you need the wards to be able to retreat in time, although it is most of the time not going to save you even if you retreat the second you see someone rotating from the mid lane.
Dude, super appreciate the feedback. Really grateful you took the time to watch.
Regarding keybindings, the multitude of clicks are mostly from my movement. I use a thumbstick for it, and it's not analog, it's digital with loud clicks (don't know why Razer decided to make it like that). Here, I'll explain.
Left Hand - Orbweaver
I use the thumb for movement...you go in one direction at a time...WASD is inefficient use of your fingers. So I use the thumb...one finger, controls all directions.
I use fingers for individual abilities, and since they're not also dedicated to movement, I can use them very quickly. I know some people use mouse buttons for abilities, but I don't like that setup.
The buttons right above the abilities are for leveling. Two right below are for relics. Other peripheral keys are for things like scoreboard, stats, recall, and item purchase.
Finally, I don't have them marked, but notice the VGS key is in the spot where the normal V is...all of these keys in the bottom 3 rows are standard keyboard assignments, so I can use those keys for VGS as well...and keyboard keys 1/2/3 (left/middle/right) are at the top (buttons 02/03/04).
Right Hand - Naga
Standard mouse setup of left and right click. I have left mouse wheel click for Consumable 1, and right mouse wheel click for Consumable 2.
The rest of the thumb keys are keyboard assignments, so I use these for VGS.
As for the rest of your observations...yeah, wasn't thinking AT ALL about Turn of Fate...was concentrating so hard on trying not to feed. That in turn made me play too passively.
Regarding better clear, I thought you go for the red buff if you're unsure or know you're going to have worse clear...because if they beat you out in the first wave, they might steal it while you're still finishing up the wave...?
I'll probably do this recording and writeup for all of my qualifying games...good or bad.
Lol ive started commenting this like 5 times now.
That is some siq keybinds haha
I just got my skills as 1,q,e,f (i think).
My actives as c and g (used to have the con my mouse, but my mouse keeps disconnecting and resetting the keybind midgame etc. So I might suddenly not have a beads key. Buying a new mouse soon.).
I have stor bound to i and recall to b or r cant remember atm >_<
Consumables ar 2 and 3.
Looking forward to see more. And I will keep giving you gameplay feedback as I see fit hehe.
And you need a strong mental health to handel ranked without tilting :p
I would like if you had push to talk on the in-game chat and could talk more freely to "us" watching the video. Just some midgame analysing is nice. Hearing your thoughts as the game plays out.
I dont really know how the different starts work and when to do them. The safest is to do buffs then wave. But if you where able to go red wave purple as Neith of something I think that could be really good. You could also just do wave red purple.
But ive pretty much only done buffs the wave since i got back.
PS i started writing this comment at 11am it is now 4pm..
Played 2 more games last night...figuring out with Duotem how we're going to start presenting the rest of my games. I did switch to push to talk, so I could specifically talk without teammates hearing everything, but just...multitasking is hard for me. I need more practice at that.
Maybe you don't quite get it. Here, I've created a graph to help you visualize.
They're probably the ones muttering under their breaths about me. I need all the help and edge I can get to be at all competitive. I might cut even on console if you allow me a mouse and keyboard.
I suppose that "Just being" refers to "the mechanical skill that naturally comes with practice, since they don't have a wife, children, or chickens to look after and therefore have much more free time that they use to develop mechanical skill until hitting Ullr's full combo is as natural as breathing".
Tech, your sentence really bothers me. One sentence...talk about run-on. (also, chickens, lol)
And I mean, for all humorous intent, "just being" can be whatever might be funniest to you. Like, if they're just in their teenage years and generally would be considered gamers, then that basically qualifies their skill level as being naturally higher than mine when it comes to SMITE.
So, exaggeration? Maaaaaayyyyybe. But when you start watching some of my matches, then maybe you start questioning my mental faculties. I seriously do some stupid, airheady stuff. I wish I could take all of my general knowledge and put them to real-life, in-the-moment use, but instead, I get nervous, I get scared, I have blinders on with regard to my lane and forget to check the minimap, I forget the wards that are in my inventory, etc., etc., etc. Yay for me.
Ao Kuang got an early Poly, which I'd normally say might be a bit early (hi newb, yeah I'm thinking of you with The Morrigan), but he was pretty deadly.
Love me an early Polynomicon only certain gods of course. Ones that can easily confirm the passive like The Morrigan and I am sure Ao Kuang can do it relatively easy with his teleport and dragons.
Haven't watched the video, but looking at the builds I generally agree with you. Just gonna mention builds that stick out to me.
Not sure what Chronos was thinking... don't think he did either being 2/15
Ganesha- I would probably just get Gauntlet of Thebes instead of Heartward/Sov and also wouldn't have gotten Shogun's. Didn't help out enough of your teammates to warrant it. Would get Void Stone for sure as a substitution and then another situational item.
Kali- Shogun's on her isn't bad in this case. It gives her additional attack speed which she loves and some magical protection against a Magical heavy enemy team. Personally, I wouldn't get The Executioner on her. I like Titan's Bane on her more as it can shred both tanks and objectives more. She should always get Hastened Katana instead of Frostbound Hammer of course. She could get Odysseus' Bow instead of Wind demon, but at that point she is probably overcapping attack speed.
Nox- Unsure why Spear of the Magus when Chronos' Pendant is needed as she had no CDR items. Bulwark of Hope is probably okay in this situation, but limits her power output.. They only had 1 tanky person so they were in a tough spot to begin with during team fights.
Artio- I can see why they got Breastplate of Valorso they could have max CDR. Agreed on Gem of Isolation and Void Stone as I like that those items on her a lot. I guess Heartward Amulet is fine. I am just not a big fan of either Heartward or Sov. Granted, when I play support, I play kind of selfishly. As in I get items that benefit me directly, and use those benefits to support my teammates aggressively instead of passively through items.
Rama- Besides the obvious TB and Executioner inefficiency, a decent build. It must have worked as his damage was top in game, but probably could have been even higher with a sub of either or.
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Second, WHAT THE ACTUAL **** is your keybindings (I thought my bindings where weird)?
Third, I'm so glad that none in EU uses the ingame voice chat. I would have tilted so hard if I had to listen to that Ao guy >_< (like why wouldn't you fight at 45 min in that corridor? It was the perfect spot for a medusa ult and the turtle. But some ppl can only think about what they can do in a fight I guess. So when it wasn't a perfect fight for Ao, you shouldn't do it...) It would have been so fun if Ao lost you the game by chasing that Kali kill at 52 min!
Regarding keybindings, the multitude of clicks are mostly from my movement. I use a thumbstick for it, and it's not analog, it's digital with loud clicks (don't know why Razer decided to make it like that). Here, I'll explain.
As for the rest of your observations...yeah, wasn't thinking AT ALL about Turn of Fate...was concentrating so hard on trying not to feed. That in turn made me play too passively.
Regarding better clear, I thought you go for the red buff if you're unsure or know you're going to have worse clear...because if they beat you out in the first wave, they might steal it while you're still finishing up the wave...?
I'll probably do this recording and writeup for all of my qualifying games...good or bad.
That is some siq keybinds haha
I just got my skills as 1,q,e,f (i think).
My actives as c and g (used to have the con my mouse, but my mouse keeps disconnecting and resetting the keybind midgame etc. So I might suddenly not have a beads key. Buying a new mouse soon.).
I have stor bound to i and recall to b or r cant remember atm >_<
Consumables ar 2 and 3.
Looking forward to see more. And I will keep giving you gameplay feedback as I see fit hehe.
And you need a strong mental health to handel ranked without tilting :p
I would like if you had push to talk on the in-game chat and could talk more freely to "us" watching the video. Just some midgame analysing is nice. Hearing your thoughts as the game plays out.
I dont really know how the different starts work and when to do them. The safest is to do buffs then wave. But if you where able to go red wave purple as Neith of something I think that could be really good. You could also just do wave red purple.
But ive pretty much only done buffs the wave since i got back.
PS i started writing this comment at 11am it is now 4pm..
Yeah, that's a pretty weird setup you have.
Played 2 more games last night...figuring out with Duotem how we're going to start presenting the rest of my games. I did switch to push to talk, so I could specifically talk without teammates hearing everything, but just...multitasking is hard for me. I need more practice at that.
Just a spoiler though, I'm an awful player XD
That way you can **** talk ppl without making it awkward Xd
They're probably the ones muttering under their breaths about me. I need all the help and edge I can get to be at all competitive. I might cut even on console if you allow me a mouse and keyboard.
And I mean, for all humorous intent, "just being" can be whatever might be funniest to you. Like, if they're just in their teenage years and generally would be considered gamers, then that basically qualifies their skill level as being naturally higher than mine when it comes to SMITE.
So, exaggeration? Maaaaaayyyyybe. But when you start watching some of my matches, then maybe you start questioning my mental faculties. I seriously do some stupid, airheady stuff. I wish I could take all of my general knowledge and put them to real-life, in-the-moment use, but instead, I get nervous, I get scared, I have blinders on with regard to my lane and forget to check the minimap, I forget the wards that are in my inventory, etc., etc., etc. Yay for me.
Gotta keep an eye on that Gold Fury ;)
Keep on trucking m8 <3
(gonna watch the game now)
Love me an early Polynomicon only certain gods of course. Ones that can easily confirm the passive like The Morrigan and I am sure Ao Kuang can do it relatively easy with his teleport and dragons.
Haven't watched the video, but looking at the builds I generally agree with you. Just gonna mention builds that stick out to me.
Not sure what Chronos was thinking... don't think he did either being 2/15
Ganesha- I would probably just get Gauntlet of Thebes instead of Heartward/Sov and also wouldn't have gotten Shogun's. Didn't help out enough of your teammates to warrant it. Would get Void Stone for sure as a substitution and then another situational item.
Kuzenbo- Would not get Spear of Desolation. Granted not sure on what sub as I hardly play Kuzenbo.
Kali- Shogun's on her isn't bad in this case. It gives her additional attack speed which she loves and some magical protection against a Magical heavy enemy team. Personally, I wouldn't get The Executioner on her. I like Titan's Bane on her more as it can shred both tanks and objectives more. She should always get Hastened Katana instead of Frostbound Hammer of course. She could get Odysseus' Bow instead of Wind demon, but at that point she is probably overcapping attack speed.
Nox- Unsure why Spear of the Magus when Chronos' Pendant is needed as she had no CDR items. Bulwark of Hope is probably okay in this situation, but limits her power output.. They only had 1 tanky person so they were in a tough spot to begin with during team fights.
Artio- I can see why they got Breastplate of Valorso they could have max CDR. Agreed on Gem of Isolation and Void Stone as I like that those items on her a lot. I guess Heartward Amulet is fine. I am just not a big fan of either Heartward or Sov. Granted, when I play support, I play kind of selfishly. As in I get items that benefit me directly, and use those benefits to support my teammates aggressively instead of passively through items.
Rama- Besides the obvious TB and Executioner inefficiency, a decent build. It must have worked as his damage was top in game, but probably could have been even higher with a sub of either or.