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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Lrv7795 » July 30, 2013 11:50pm | Report
Just today, I went up against an Ares as Fenrir. He used his Shackles, and I could not win. Shackles eliminates my jump and brutalize; I had no escapes except my ult, which was not up frequently enough to be useful. Usually, Ares does not do very much damage, but for some reason he was able to secure a kill almost every time he got his Shackles to hit. I bought beads, and that didn't really help due to the shorter cool-down for Shackles. I tried to dodge, but every time he was able to hit me. If I get my runes and stun, he just turns around and Shackles me. This isn't the first time my Fenrir has been nerfed by a meddling Ares. This same situation has happened with nearly every assassin or carry I play.

As of now, I cannot think of any way to counter Ares other than leaving the lane entirely. Any suggestions?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HollowsEdge » July 31, 2013 12:27am | Report
From what I have found playing as ares and against if ur an assasin or a carry you should not take him on alone unless u r fed.. ares is a beast in both defence and offence and alot of the time too dangerous to take on solo mid to late game.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » July 31, 2013 12:35am | Report
As fenrir you should usually win depending on how you build - if you get a voidblade early as you should, you should be fine.

Basically. bait the shackles. Without shackles, you can brutalize and jump with no fear, and he loses 90% of his damage. Always have rank 3 beads ready for his ultimate. Spin circles around him to avoid the fire, and your lifesteal will outheal his damage as your armor penetration shreds him.

1) Bait out his shackles. IF HE HITS YOU, DO NOT ENGAGE.
2) Engage
3) Lifesteal
4) Win
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HollowsEdge » July 31, 2013 12:35am | Report
As for a counter the only thing I can think of is to shut him down early and cripple what little ability he has to farm gold because 1ce he falls behind its impossible to catch up! I hope this helps!

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sunfall » July 31, 2013 12:56am | Report
Raventhor wrote:

As fenrir you should usually win depending on how you build - if you get a voidblade early as you should, you should be fine.

Basically. bait the shackles. Without shackles, you can brutalize and jump with no fear, and he loses 90% of his damage. Always have rank 3 beads ready for his ultimate. Spin circles around him to avoid the fire, and your lifesteal will outheal his damage as your armor penetration shreds him.

1) Bait out his shackles. IF HE HITS YOU, DO NOT ENGAGE.
2) Engage
3) Lifesteal
4) Win


Your scenario assumes a duel. Ares is a god-awful farmer with a pretty strong teamfight presence that should never be caught alone unless he's defending a tower. If you do find him alone, he's either really fed that he can get away with roaming or really bad and doesn't know how to play.

Assuming the duo lane/teamfight scenario, why the hell would you ever focus an Ares? If you can do that kind of damage, why not focus a DPS god after you've baited his Shackles, since he's generally ignorable without them.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Lrv7795 » July 31, 2013 1:09am | Report
Ok, so try to bait him by faking an engagement, then when he misses, go in for the kill. I'll remember that.

Thanks for the help guys. Smitefire gives me hope for the community of MOBA games. :)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » July 31, 2013 1:10am | Report
Sunfall wrote:



Your scenario assumes a duel. Ares is a god-awful farmer with a pretty strong teamfight presence that should never be caught alone unless he's defending a tower. If you do find him alone, he's either really fed that he can get away with roaming or really bad and doesn't know how to play.

Assuming the duo lane/teamfight scenario, why the hell would you ever focus an Ares? If you can do that kind of damage, why not focus a DPS god after you've baited his Shackles, since he's generally ignorable without them.

Yeah I had assumed a duel scenario, but you raise a valid point. A fenrir won't ever really be facing an ares 1v1, and in a teamfight, even if you DO get shackled, it'd be after you had gotten off at least your brutalize on the mage, especially with chains being at least relatively hard to land. And if ares is focusing you, GG because your mages should rot their team with no cc.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » July 31, 2013 1:38am | Report
Area is an interesting god.

I like to see him as a very delicate tank who needs to be very carefull and... Ah who am I kidding this is how you ares.( i will talk about countering later.)

You run straight at the foo while saying f*** you to everything and just dive anyone while going full ****** which is something you are allowed If you are ares.

Ares is very straight forward, a tank who is Able to do lots of damage.

Counters.
Like others already said the best counter to ares is baiting the chains BUT when you do get hit by 1 or 2 or 3 what then, well ares has 3 chains so If you get hit by one it already gets harder to avoid more, your tank should take the other If the ares is close to you other whise try to move unpredicteble.

If you are Alone and ares is close to you just start running around him in circle's spamming VHH, now help is on the way
The running around him in circle's will make sure he will get a hard time landing his chains and makes it harder to hit ticks on his flametrower, the running around in circle's will need to be done very close to him other whise it won't work( I mean you can scratch his back close).

And If you failled doing those thing then well... Ares got a kill.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TheAmazingComicBookGuy » July 31, 2013 2:45am | Report
am I crazy or is every1 forgetting that Ares' cripple is a hard counter to Fenrir? You are simply not supposed to engage and just run as soon as you spot him. Also, buy aegis and beads to counter both his ult and his chains. Ares is very hard to kill so only try to kill him last or if you outnumber him (2v4 or so)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HollowsEdge » July 31, 2013 3:38am | Report
I fully agree with comicbookguy! I know tht when I play ares when I find tht im laning against a loki or a fenrir I start to rub my hands together because they are really easy kills especiallyif the players get impatient which most loki and fenrir players do!

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