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Dissecting Smite #1: Oversexualization, Stereotyping, Double-Standards, and Other Misogyny in Smite

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 19, 2014 4:23am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-hipster-activism-hurts-people-its-trying-to-help_p2/

Last entry.

"I generally think that kind of criticism is really ****ing stupid, because people who use that term just throw it at any attempt to talk about social issues at all."


Thanks, you just confirmed my post:

"Because Internet activism -- particularly with the weird culture that seems to pervade Tumblr -- isn't about making a difference, or even raising awareness; it's just about proving how superior the writer is to his or her audience. Tumbloggers (or whatever you call them) with blogs like Shutthe****upsexists.tumblr.com or IWillLiterallyMurderYouIfYouMakeARapeJoke.tumblr.com aren't actually trying to spread awareness or insights. They're just trying to outdo each other, to win this weird competition that has nothing to do with anything but their own egos. They all want to find the new, more nuanced, more complicated social problem ("adult privilege" refers to the injustice that teenage voices aren't valued, and "tall privilege" refers to **** knows what) that no one else has heard of. They're treating social issues the way hipsters treat bands: using the advantage of knowledge to make it painfully, irrefutably obvious that they are better than you."

You aren't any better. Herpderp.

Believe it or not, you fall under the "where the sentiment comes from" category.

Now, how about you write a letter to Hi-Rez telling them what you think of their game and portrayal of women and then you'll be getting somewhere! Or, you can stay here and argue with me and call me names. Not like it makes you any worse of a person or anything.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » December 19, 2014 4:24am | Report
Ghraf wrote:


On that note, there are rapists in Smite? Forgive me if I didn't notice. I'm assuming they're probably one of the jungle camps we get to kill over and over.


God forbid anyone hold a contrary opinion, that makes me the devil, I guess.

bravo you are doing meme's.

could you not try to give an actual reply to what i said?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » December 19, 2014 4:25am | Report
also i'd just like to point out my personal problem has to do with the lore and not as much the real world implications of smite pornogrifications.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 19, 2014 4:26am | Report
All4Games wrote:


bravo you are doing meme's.

could you not try to give an actual reply to what i said?


The reason I didn't grace your magnificent post with a real reply is because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 19, 2014 4:28am | Report
Ghraf wrote:



Thanks, you just confirmed my post:

"Because Internet activism -- particularly with the weird culture that seems to pervade Tumblr -- isn't about making a difference, or even raising awareness; it's just about proving how superior the writer is to his or her audience. Tumbloggers (or whatever you call them) with blogs like Shutthe****upsexists.tumblr.com or IWillLiterallyMurderYouIfYouMakeARapeJoke.tumblr.com aren't actually trying to spread awareness or insights. They're just trying to outdo each other, to win this weird competition that has nothing to do with anything but their own egos. They all want to find the new, more nuanced, more complicated social problem ("adult privilege" refers to the injustice that teenage voices aren't valued, and "tall privilege" refers to **** knows what) that no one else has heard of. They're treating social issues the way hipsters treat bands: using the advantage of knowledge to make it painfully, irrefutably obvious that they are better than you."

You aren't any better. Herpderp.

Believe it or not, you fall under the "where the sentiment comes from" category.

Now, how about you write a letter to Hi-Rez telling them what you think of their game and portrayal of women and then you'll be getting somewhere! Or, you can stay here and argue with me and call me names. Not like it makes you any worse of a person or anything.

...you do realize you just accused me of trying to do some kind of ****-measuring contest? Or in other words, you're trying to invalidate my argument by calling me a hypocrite who doesn't actually care. Ad hominem, look it up.

Since you clearly don't have anything to say about the actual thread, and just wnat to fling passive-aggressive insults and insinuations at me and All4Games, I suggest you leave.

Oh, and FYI: I DID send mails, plural, to HiRez. There was a short correspondence. It was one of the reasons why I made this in the first place. Don't talk about things you don't understand.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TheGenocideLord » December 19, 2014 4:33am | Report
Yay I got quoted :D

Also, I wouldn't call it misogyny. I would call it more drunk perverts at Hi-Rez thinking someone will start fapping to goddess breasts, but that's up to debate.

Also, I would like everyone to remain civil and not pick a fight in this thread. This is a good and important topic that will be healthy for this community.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 19, 2014 4:35am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:


...you do realize you just accused me of trying to do some kind of ****-measuring contest? Or in other words, you're trying to invalidate my argument by calling me a hypocrite who doesn't actually care. Ad hominem, look it up.

Since you clearly don't have anything to say about the actual thread, and just wnat to fling passive-aggressive insults and insinuations at me and All4Games, I suggest you leave.

Oh, and FYI: I DID send mails, plural, to HiRez. There was a short correspondence. Don't talk about things you don't understand.


Yes, I did. You clearly seem to feel like you're making a huge point with the nitpicking of their character design and get highly offended when anyone says that the design is fine.

I'm calling you a hypocrite because you insulted me by calling me a sycophant when I expressed a differing opinion. Keep in mind, I did not insult you in any way then.

Ultimately, that's all you have, an opinion. And I'm speaking in terms of the actual thread right now, unless your entire purpose of this thread was for everyone to agree with you and dance to your little tune in nice harmonies, and anyone who so much as has the audacity to disagree gets asked to leave.

And good, you sent mails to HiRez. That's literally all you can do about it. Did they say they would think about your opinions? If yes, then congratulations, you've made a difference. If not, then sorry, you tried.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 19, 2014 4:40am | Report
Ghraf wrote:



Yes, I did. You clearly seem to feel like you're making a huge point with the nitpicking of their character design and get highly offended when anyone says that the design is fine.

I'm calling you a hypocrite because you insulted me by calling me a sycophant when I expressed a differing opinion. Keep in mind, I did not insult you in any way then.

Ultimately, that's all you have, an opinion. And I'm speaking in terms of the actual thread right now, unless your entire purpose of this thread was for everyone to agree with you and dance to your little tune in nice harmonies, and anyone who so much as has the audacity to disagree gets asked to leave.

And good, you sent mails to HiRez. That's literally all you can do about it. Did they say they would think about your opinions? If yes, then congratulations, you've made a difference. If not, then sorry, you tried.

Ignoring the insults:

"Just an opinion." Well, grats, I can say the same to all of your posts. Most of us here outgrew the whole "it's just an opinion" tactic. Ad hominem, again.

You know, I expected people to discuss the contents of the thread, not try to invalidate it with personal attacks. You need to get over yourself, and stop trying to derail the thread with this argument.

Yeah, I called you a sycophant. But that was "just an opinion," right? In response to your "opinion" that Smite is a flawless game. Then you shouldn't care. Go away.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 19, 2014 4:45am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:


Ignoring the insults:

"Just an opinion." Well, grats, I can say the same to all of your posts. Most of us here outgrew the whole "it's just an opinion" tactic. Ad hominem, again.

You know, I expected people to discuss the contents of the thread, not try to invalidate it with personal attacks. You need to get over yourself, and stop trying to derail the thread with this argument.

Yeah, I called you a sycophant. But that was "just an opinion," right? In response to your "opinion" that Smite is a flawless game. Then you shouldn't care. Go away.


Please point out where I insulted you (barring the hypocrite part, and true statements don't count).

Please point out where I personally attacked you (saying that you don't have the right to make someone change something they created isn't an "attack").

I feel like I'm on Reddit for some reason. For the record, I never made this personal, you did.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » December 19, 2014 4:48am | Report
Oh, I thought I'd mention that I agree with you on the newest goddess. That's kind of ridiculous. I think they gave her extra jiggle physics.
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