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Is AMC not obviously showing some sort of power creep?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » November 6, 2013 4:27pm | Report
Come on, at least a little. You cannot tell me with a straight face that an ultimate with 1K+ damage on a potential 18 or so second cooldown is not at least a little bit.. I don't know.. Broken!?

I won't say AMC lacks a weakness, but he seems awfully strong. His hive gives him a temporary sanctuary with the movement speed, health, and attack speed. Cover yourself in hives and you have got your own sniper tower. Swarm? Reminds me of Aphro's 3. Except with a ton of damage. Not to mention his seemingly harmless "Honaaay", which means that if you step in it, suddenly a trillion bees come out and start destroying your face.

And finally, if you aren't dead yet, INCOMING, 1K damage. Better hope you don't die cause if you do he gets a massive cooldown reduction. Oh good you haven't died yet! But he picked it up anyways because it falls off after a short time. Well I suppose he'll just send another army of bees at you. Dead. But it's ok, cause next teamfight, he probably won't have his ultimate, right?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » November 6, 2013 4:45pm | Report
Yeah, he's like Artemis 3.0 Plus Executive edition with hax and mods, only focused on "casty" damage, which has made the "autoattack" damagers pretty much obsolete. In the high tiers, 90% of them are casty dudes, or tanks.

Seriously, a 16 second cooldown, WTF...
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » November 6, 2013 4:56pm | Report
If I'm not mistaken, it's 12 seconds with 1/3 CDR (90 second x 1/3 CDR = 60s, x .8 ult reduction = 12s. Or if you do it the other way, 90 second x .8 = 18 seconds, x 1/3 CDR = 12 seconds)
it's mildly shorter with the 35% cdr cap, but that's neither here nor there.

In the end, a 600 damage ult with 115% scaling (including passive) is ridiculous on a 12 second CD.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » November 6, 2013 5:35pm | Report
With max CDR, cooldown is 10.8 seconds. (90 x .60 x .2)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sirsir94 » November 6, 2013 7:25pm | Report
If he picks it up. Don't let him. And the ult is really the only possibly unbalanced thing about him.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » November 6, 2013 7:46pm | Report
Sirsir94 wrote:

If he picks it up. Don't let him. And the ult is really the only possibly unbalanced thing about him.


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » November 6, 2013 7:59pm | Report
Wait isn't CDR cap 35%, not 40%?
eh, 12s, 10.8s, same difference.

And sirsir, it's not the only unbalanced thing. Arachne, who is a melee, has a lower damage passive than Mr. Bees, who essentially has the same thing, just better. It's also applied on ability hits.

His MS/AS/Heal is pretty powerful too.

He has a slow, MS steroid, AS steroid, Heal, Dot, Nuke, and Ult Nuke on a 10.8s CD, which can be pretty easy to grab if you set it up right. Oh, and did I mention his ult cripples? That may be overlooked, but hit a Fenrir, Mercury, Apollo, etc, and they're just simply done.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » November 6, 2013 8:23pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Wait isn't CDR cap 35%, not 40%?
eh, 12s, 10.8s, same difference.

And sirsir, it's not the only unbalanced thing. Arachne, who is a melee, has a lower damage passive than Mr. Bees, who essentially has the same thing, just better. It's also applied on ability hits.

His MS/AS/Heal is pretty powerful too.

He has a slow, MS steroid, AS steroid, Heal, Dot, Nuke, and Ult Nuke on a 10.8s CD, which can be pretty easy to grab if you set it up right. Oh, and did I mention his ult cripples? That may be overlooked, but hit a Fenrir, Mercury, Apollo, etc, and they're just simply done.


Got changed to 40% a while ago, actually.

And yeah, he's scary. I also expected him to be melee (stabbing with a stinger VS firing weird darts) which would make a bit more sense, but no, he's ranged. Ugh, and I expect he'd be better at jungling than Arachne, too.
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