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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 11:33am | Report
AFTER GAME IMAGE BELOW OF HEBO'S OPness (ICEN) as you can see = me on hebro.

Here you go guys, you can check my recent games. I had no warm ups for this, I did not play hebo all day today or yesterday. I went into this match and I told everyone I'm going to prove that hebo is OP by not dying this match and owning eveyrone in sight. I said they can come to smitefire to see me post the game up, maybe they will come and explain how OP I was.

This was a conquest match, I had no warm up with hebo I just picked him and played.

As you can see I went 8-0 with my hebro skin. Some people may talk but I have the proof in the pudding I don't lie when I say when I play hebo I pwn people WITH EASE and I rarely pick him. I build cooldown boots, focusvoidstone, chronos pendent then I was going to start on something which I forget.

The other team member actually raged out of the game I was so op with my 1.
I asked eveyyone if they think my 1 is spam or op they all said "of course its spam"

Now look at the damage compared to all the other players in the game and you will see that hebo is good, in fact TOO GOOD.

I did the best on the team with a character I never play, so if hebo takes mad skill then I should not be going 8-0 with a god I never pick. Again this is with no warm up, if you check my recent games you can see I played NO HEBO ALL DAY today or yesterday. You can also check my recent games I was not going negative at all today, so if you want to say I picked a good match its simply not true because I was owning in all my matches today.

So here is the proof I don't know what more to say, I stand by my same thought, HEBO's water cannon is on simply a too short of a cooldown. Hes fun don't get me wrong and dies quick but I feel that anyone who can play smite fairly decent can just wreck faces with hebo its not all that hard to do as you see by what I just did 8-0 without early pen either.

I don't know what are you guys going to say about this? Because I felt that when I played this match my 1 was clearly more op then anything they could do to me.
Its not that its OP, I just feel they could make the cd only apply when you land your skill shots like 3 or ult. But free spam is op.

HERE YOU GO GUYS (Check my recent games) I don't need to make up any lies I simply say the fact : HEBO'S WATER CANNON CD IS OP with free spam.

Does anyone know how to maximize that stat screen below when you click on match details? I don't know how to maximize it so you can see the whole screen.
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DID I MENTION I HAVEN'T EVEN WENT TO BED YET AND DID THIS GOOD?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 12:02pm | Report
there is something called luck, skill, and mentalety involved in these tipes of games.

He Bo's 1 is on a very low cooldown yes BUT it has very short range and is a very thin cone.

if how you put it it is so OP because of how spammy it is then that would make Chang'es 1 which is on only a 1 second longer cooldown SUPER OMEGA OP. it has a bigger/longer cone and can even be made bigger by moving in a specific way.

i agree that He Bo needs some nerf but not on his 1. on his 2 and 3. if you nerf his 1 then take a bit of scalling off.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 12:24pm | Report
Ummm no thats not luck, I can do that again if you want me too although I don't feel like playing another hebo match I could and the results will turn out the same and that is me pwnign some more with the hebro!!! HEBRO TOO STRONG!!!

Change VS hebo's short cooldown move
Hebo beats her in shorter cooldown
hebo beats her in base damage
hebo beats her in scaling
hebo beats her in passive additional damage to blow her out the water

Hebo has 3 skills that do damage
Chang'e only has 2 skills that do damage
* Let me also bring up the fact that Chang'es 1 WAS OP thats why it got nerfed. She was suppose to be support and they decided it was too strong and whats sad its hebos is way better so if shes getting a nerf on her wanna be clone of hebo and people think hebo's *** is fine? Well okay until that day comes I will keep going 8-0 with Easebo.

Hebos 2 is fine if you think this needs nerfed then wow because this is FINE
hebos 3 is fine its just annoying
Hebos ult is fine

Hebos 1 is not fine.

Like I said my nerf does not effect his 1 IF YOU HAVE SKILL.
If your a nub then it will effect your 1.

My fix :

hebos 1 will STILL do the same base damage
hebos 1 will STILL do the same scaling
hebos 1 will STILL have the extra passive damage

Hebo will not be able to spam his 1 UNLESS you hit a damage ability on a enemy god.
That is fair and keeps hebo from being a spammable nub free god.

Any nub can spam his 1 miss and do it again 5 times, hell thats why I went 8-0 that match I MISSED LIKE 4 water cannons and just kept spamming it THATS WHY I WON because its SPAM!!!

I didn't win because of his 2, I didn't win because of his 3, I won because of his 1 and his ult. His ult is a portion of half his kills but the other half and sometimes majority of his kills come from his 1 that he can spam.

Like I said What is wrong with ONLY letting hebo get low CD when you land a damage ability.

That means you still get to spam but you are forced to not be a nub and miss your damage abilities or you don't get the CD, you will only get the CD if you land the damage abilities. At least this way its not a nub free spam that allows you to miss with no punish.

NOBODY COULD PUNISH ME THAT MATCH

My 1 comes back to quick and you can never punish me
I out range you
If you get close I will spam, ult and 3 then, spam and do everything else hebo can do.

His 1 makes him unpunishable.

hebo is only punishable but getting ganked or outnumbered.
You can die by getting out played but just remember its your fault not hebo, because hebo has his 1 on cd all day long for you to use.

Make his CD only apply when you land damage abilities, you can still do the same stuff as before.

The only difference is you can't be a noob and miss and expect to not get punished for missing.

I guess you are scared if you get your 1 cd taken away because you can't land your 3's or ults?

If you can land them then you should have no problem with what I just said.

Again theres a reason why I just went 8-0 with no warm up or without even playing hebo in the past two days. And its not because he takes mad skill.

Again its not luck, if that 8-0 match was luck then I guess my agni match when I went
7-0 right before that was also luck. The matches before that when I went 6-3 with kali and 12-2 with kali was also luck :)

THOSE ARE ALL BACK TO BACK GAMES WITH NO WARM UP WITH THE GODS.

Hebo 1 too strong your just too proud to admit it.

(I copied that line, goku said it to vegeta)

This is what Hebo's 1 does to your hp every 1 second and you think its fine :O

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 12:43pm | Report
yes there is ALWAYS luck in volved.

and the part of him not being punishable? its short range make it a pusnish move but not un punishable. if i get walk a bit to far up to hit minions and i have anhur, neith against me then they will just pop there nuke and punish me. if i am up against agni and i come a bit to close he would put fumes down and flame wave me.

there are so many gods who can punish He Bo and i do agree that he could get a bit of a nerf in scaling but NOT in cooldown's because A its what he is known for and B its just so much fun to use.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 1:01pm | Report
scaling would make it weaker though

I never took away his CD

I said he will still get his low CD but ONLY if you hit your 3 and ult. Which ever want you land does not matter, if you land your ult or 3 your cd on 1 will be low how it is now.

When you miss your ult or 3 YOU DON'T GET THE CD after all why the hell should you?

Your fault for missing your skills and that cone is pretty easy to hit with, its not short range in my view. Short range to me means like tyrs 2 or a basic attack range. Hebo's skill is short-mid range. Its not too short and its not exactly going past mid range. Its in between.

Its decently wide enough to be easy to use.

You would rather take less scaling rather than having the SAME scaling and spam, the only difference is you have to land abilities to get your CD, you can do everything the same nothing will change, all it does is make his 1 non spammable to nubs.

So if you would rather take scaling away that tells me you would rather have a spam that you can spam no matter if you miss or land shots.

After all you just said it yourself.

Lets pretend :

You are hebo, agni uses his ult to clear the minion wave, he has no ult. Agni dashes in the drops his AOE fumes to stun you, he then flame waves you.

His ult is on CD for 20 seconds, His dash is on CD for like 11 seconds if he got some cooldown, his fumes and flame wave is on cd for a good bit as well.

You as hebo EVEN WITH your ult + 2 + 3 on CD still can use your 1 like 3 times before agni even gets 1 of his skills back thats without cooldown either.

Just proves how other gods are way more punishable FOR MISSING SKILLS.

What happens when you miss your 1 with hebo?

You know what the answer is right? "You simply use it again"

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TheAmazingComicBookGuy » August 19, 2013 1:02pm | Report
This is no proof that He Bo's 1 is op, all this tells me is that He Bro skin is OP! Nerf plx

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 1:06pm | Report

This is no proof that He Bo's 1 is op, all this tells me is that He Bro skin is OP! Nerf plx
Hey I think that is the problem! Ever since I got the Hebro skin and voice pack easter egg I have been doing to good with him!

I knew it!!! His name is not even hebo or hebro!!! I just checked and it actually says
"He-Pro" I knew it guys! It wasn't me this entire time it was that damn skin!!!

I hovered my mouse over his 1 and it said "OP SPAM" but then I re-hovered over it and it said the normal stuff?

No man there is a glitch with hebo, he is really hepro in disguise and his 1 is really ment to be op they just tried to cover it up with his beard.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TheAmazingComicBookGuy » August 19, 2013 1:10pm | Report
ICEN wrote:

Hey I think that is the problem! Ever since I got the Hebro skin and voice pack easter egg I have been doing to good with him!

I knew it!!! His name is not even hebo or hebro!!! I just checked and it actually says
"He-Pro" I knew it guys! It wasn't me this entire time it was that damn skin!!!

I hovered my mouse over his 1 and it said "OP SPAM" but then I re-hovered over it and it said the normal stuff?

No man there is a glitch with hebo, he is really hepro in disguise and his 1 is really ment to be op they just tried to cover it up with his beard.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » August 19, 2013 1:49pm | Report
No one even broke 20k damage?
That was a short game.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 8:31pm | Report
No one broke 20k because my hebo too strong that they surrender and we end matches that quick.


There is one thing I just thought of though.

In that match I was facing a :

Anubis
Ares
Neith
chang'e
Bakasura

Now tell me how are they suppose to counter my hebo? They literally could not do jack almost.

Okay lets start with anubis.
The only thing anubis has is his stun which If I wanted I could beads out of or even use aegis for his ult. When facing anubis I had better poke them him. His poke is not as good because his poke ticks where as my poke does damage all at once and he can't move away from my poke like I can with his. If he doesn't land a stun he will never beat a hebo period. He actually ulted before on me that game I all I did was counter ult and kill him :)

Then we have ares
Okay ares counteres everyone duh? His chains was the only thing he could do, other than that he was also useless against me, I bought beads so I all did was beads out of his ult and chains. Him getting close to use his chains causes me to splash him to death with my 1 and ult. He didn't die half the time because he was too tanky but he couldn't do much to me either.

Then there was bakasura
Well nobody can deny that baka can't and never will own a hebo. Hebo simply has range and will ult his face off when he gets close. Need I say more bakasura didn't stand a chance.

Chang'e
Now she was alright because she had some spam as well but her spam was not as good as hebo spam and she only has a ult to follow it up with. She may be able to do some damage with her spam but she has no way to follow up and get the kill. Like Always she is annoying because of her free aegis but hebo's poke allowed me to catch her when she was running, poke her use my 2 then chaser her until I splash her to death.

Neith
Lastly in that match we had neith. Neith has to skill shot which is her only real chance, that along with hitting her broken weaves. That said neiths back flip is useless against hebo. Neiths ult doesn't kill unless you have low hp and you can aegis/beads it. Neiths heal is nothing to worry about. So that leaves neith with her 1. As long as you never go by her broken weaves you as hebo will always own her as well with pokes to death.

I don't know?

I just explained why all those gods cannot do nothing to me in the match.
They really have no way to deal with a hebo BY THEMSELFS.

Since I bought beads I could even slow out of slows, ect. So I was invincible!!!

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