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Yeah, by "juking" we don't mean just popping aegis.

And by counterplay most people don't mean Juking :P

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Perhaps the idea of juking as counterplay isn't so much just the action, but rather the knowledge about the enemy gods to predict their actions (hence, "predictive counterplay").

Take , for example. If you or he are just initiating, and you know his skill set, you really should be thinking that his initial move will be as it's not on cooldown. Depending on the situation, you may want to actually get in a boxing match with him...so instead of just juking laterally, you could try to make him waste it by staying just out of range and baiting him, or you could rush in quickly to surprise him, getting inside of his pull location.

Sure, that's gameplay and knowledge, but I think the thought behind the action works in the general concept.

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I think I agree with the way Devampi is going with it.

Your description, Dac, absolutely can count as counterplaying, and I agree with it. I think once you play the game enough, you'll be able to read your opponent a lot better, which will allow you to predict what they'll do next. For example, like you used in your example, take Herc. If you keep your eye on him, it's not very hard to know when he's going to try and knock you up with Earthbreaker. Most Hercs are very predictable with it. Having the knowledge of how most Hercs try to initiate with it, it's not hard to dodge it. Granted, I don't have any numbers on it, but most of the time, when I'm going against an enemy Herc, I can probably dodge more than half of his attempts at knocking me up because I know when to expect it. I consider that counterplaying.

However, as Devampi said as well, there are some that believe counterplaying is a lot more than just positioning and dodging, and yeah, they'd be right in saying that there isn't a whole lot of counter playing against some god combos based on their combos and the items we have to deal with them. There's not many other ways to counter Poseidon's whirlpool + Kraken combo besides Aegis, and if you don't have that up, you're more than likely screwed. Some gods have abilities to counter it, but not all.

Do I necessarily think it's a horrible thing? Not really. It sucks getting caught in Poseidon's combo, but really, in my opinion, positioning and awareness is very important in Smite, and you will be punished if you're not careful in either aspect. If you watch your enemy and pay attention to how they play, you might be able to read them well enough to avoid those types of attacks, and if not, there's always Aegis as a get-out-of-jail free card. Granted, there are some times where it's really hard to avoid getting stuck in something like that, but that's just how the game goes. I think Smite is alright when it comes down to this. Not perfect, but not bad.

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I just thought of a brutal combo ult and kraken

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Through in a Cabraken tremoring an I might cry from the sheer beauty

I have an awesome guide out on Cabrakan, check it out

http://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/brutality-in-the-solo-lane-and-jungle-violence-in-progress-5994

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Through in a Cabraken tremoring an I might cry from the sheer beauty

would be better than , because the main drawback of is that the target will escape. With , the cripple ensure the target will take the whole damage from , unless an active is used of course.

Now, why not the 3 of them at the same time ?

+ for damage
+
or for cripple.

Pretty sure nobody can survive long this combo, unless built tanky.
Add in a if you are really that mean.

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C-c-combo aoe!

I have an awesome guide out on Cabrakan, check it out

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