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Forum » General Discussion » Why is Anubis a top pick in Chinese meta? 32 posts - page 3 of 4
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » November 9, 2014 1:51am | Report
I can't really say any God is master of 1v1 anymore, there are some Gods who excel at it, but it more comes down to who counters what move, when you use what move and what the other person is doing when you use that move.

For example.... hahah lolol this is kind of funny...

In siege the enemy had a Anubis and I was Guan Yu (Only because I been spamming Guan Yu to get him to rank X so prepare to hear me spam Guan Yu in every thread until then :)

Now, right off the bat you would probably think, derp Anubis gonna **** on dat Guan!!!

Well yea, Anubis has the same downsides as a hel does.... no escape = Horsey time on your ***.

If none of you know how strong horsey is, lets just say its the highest physical damage ult in the game so I suggest not eating it....

Anubis can't escape it, and the only way he can even survive is with a rank 3 aegis which won't come until later on mid game to late game most likely if he even wanted to use that as a active.

My point is this, it more comes down to who uses what at what time. For example, Anubis can **** on Guan Yu's face all day... BUT once I use that horsey the tables are turned on Anubis because he is going to eat my horsey, and horsey also stuns....

Assuming most players get rank 1-2 aegis maximum until midish to late game that means Anubis will pretty much NEVER survive facing Guan Yu unless he kills Guan Yu before he gets on his horsey. Because once horsey come its GG.

Why do I keep saying horsey and GG for Anubis???

Because Gods like Agni can just dash away from my Horsey and avoid the **** ton of damage and stun, Anubis can't.

When I see a God with no escape I know two things, I either got a free kill once my horsey is up or I can at least get them low enough for them to run away and my team will probably clean them up later.

Like I said rank 3 aegis is the ONLY way Anubis can survive and even with that I don't think its long enough to avoid every hit of the ult.

Meanwhile if I am Guan Yu and have Aeigs 3/Beads and Magi's blessing, Anubis is almost never going to kill me.

I'm not joking either.

Anubis is a load blower, he blows his **** then waits for cooldowns. If any of it misses he is ****ed.

So the obvious thing is to say, well duh, just land the abilities noob!!!

Well you see even if you land the abilities as Anubis your not going to get a kill most the time. They can just beads out or Aegis 3 all your damage and yes I do mean ALL of your damage not like Guan Yu where Anubis can only avoid some of the horsey, but you can actually avoid ALL of Anubi's 3 and ult for the entire duration I am pretty sure.

If they have Magi's blessing its GG for you.

You are forced into a gem of isolation if they have all of that to even compete with them.

I love mah Anubis, but I have to come to grips with his downsides and you will realize them when you go against people in league who all have Beads rank 3, Aegis rank3 and magi's blessing.


Imagine facing a ****ing team with full magi blessing and both actives....

You are pretty much never going to get a stun and even if you do your not getting the kill, instead you just wasted everything and know have to wait while they chase you down or kill your team while you can't do anything.

* Beads 3, oh just wait it out right? Its only one beads, I mean hey its cooldown is kind of long right? Yes except for the fact that they also have

* Rank 3 Aegis, oh now they have another beads but even worst, it makes you invincible from all damage and gets you out of the CC. What will you say now? Oh well just make them waste both beads and aegis??? Okay **** it lets even give you that!!!

* Magi's blessing
, now they have this.....

So why people don't play Anubis is easy.


You have to make them waste 3 things just to get a damn kill or land CC even IF you hit every skill....

First you have to get rid of their CC shield
Then you have to make them waste beads or aegis
then after that you have to make them waste the other beads or aegis

Then you can finally CC them or kill them

OH BUT WAIT!!!!

Since they have 3 forms of counters

That means one actives will most likely be back up before you need to use it and that also means the CC shield will be back!!!


Hurrayyayaya!!!

Seriously, Anubis only works on teams that do not buy the counters or on a heavy *** CC team, and I mean really heavy in order to make them waste all of that.

Yes those items counter Anubis more than other Gods.

You can't counter Agni with those items because his ult will be back up every 20 seconds and has more range and he can use those ults when ever he chooses too. Also his damage is not all pure burst like Anubis. Agni is bursty but what I mean is that Anubis does all of his damage quickly and its all avoidable.

With Gods like Agni a aegis will not avoid all the damage, you can't avoid 3 bombs, a dash with ticking over time damage and a fumes and a flame wave all with one aegis.

WIth Anubis one aegis can take the entire combo and eat it.

*What it simply comes down to is this*

- Gods with no escapes get ate up easy once they make a mistake

That means Guan Yu's horsey can eat up Anubis, AMC, Hel, Kukulkan, Hebo, Poseidon, Isis ect.

Any God who cannot outrun horsey will surely die (even possibly with a active)

Any God who has a decent escape will not die by horsey and not even get hit by horsey most likely.

Agni, Syclla, Janus, Ullr, Anhur, ect.

I'm not calling Anubis garbage, but if he is facing a team who is stacked on actives and items that counter him, he is going to have a 1000X greater time being pro than other Gods.

That's pretty much it, with other Gods you just do what you do, with Anubis you have to work hard as **** just to do what you want to do. People want easiness therefor they pick Gods who they know can just get in and do ****.

I used to think I could be pro with Anubis in league, yea, it works out well when the other team only has one counter, and even that is a pain in the ***, but when your facing a team that has 3 counter items for you, it makes it close to impossible to kill them.

Because any time you catch them they will likely have at least ONE of those 3 counters up.
If they do not have beads up they will have aegis up, if they do not have aegis up they will have beads up, if both are those are down they will have the CC shield up, once you get the shield down then they will get one of their actives back.

Its close to impossible to catch them with all of the counters down.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by festive1 » November 9, 2014 3:10am | Report
I agree with ICEN, but I'd just like to say a few things.

First of all, in this current meta, Escapes and CC are both very in, escapes because of CC mostly. Anubis has fairly good CC, but Agni has CC and an escape.

But anyways, there are other reasons why Anubis isn't in with NA and EU meta; he has little to no team fight potential, yes he may be strong if not the best at 1v1, he has a slow and 2 abilities with root him to 1 position. So what if he sets up the perfect ult? He might be able to down someone to 1/2 health before the enemy team steam rolls him. Look at all of the meta strong mages; Ra, Nu Wa, Scylla, Agni, Janus. They all mostly have escapes and very good utility and team fight potential.

But as to why he is good in China, I have no idea, perhaps their meta is more focused on the landing phase, and less grouping, or perhaps meta strong gods are just worse against Anubis.

Summary: Anubis isn't good in NA and EU meta, but could be good in China, it's just that I haven't seen any Chinese/Asian play yet. Just have to wait till the World Championship.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by KingLion » November 9, 2014 12:47pm | Report
I wanted to see any more reasons (although your reasons make sense), and I found out that the chinese client doesn't have all the gods. So this are the ones, so you can discuss some more:

These are the gods in the list and the ones who're missing:

Roman Pantheon

- Bacchus and Cupid and Vulcan

Missing: Hercules, and Mercury, Sylvanus ( Nox too)


Egyptian Pantheon

- Neith, Anubis, Anhur and Eset

Missing: Bastet, Ra, Serqet, and Sobek


Nordic Pantheon

- Thor, Fenrir, Odin, Ymir, Tyr, Freya and Hel

Missing: Loki, Ullr


Greek Pantheon

- Ares, Aphrodite, Poseidon, Apollo, Thanatos, Chronos Hades, Athena and Zeus

Missing: Arachne, Artemis, Janus and Scylla


Chinese Pantheon

- Ne Zha, Chang'e, Sun Wukong, He Bo, Zhong Kui

Missing: Nu Wa


Mayan Pantheon

- Xbalanque, Chaac

Missing: Hun Batz, Ah Muzen Cab, Cabrakan.



Hindu Pantheon

- Agni, Kali

Missing: Bakasura, Vamana, Rama, Kumbhakarna

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » November 9, 2014 1:03pm | Report
No wonder, they're missing Nude Wa, Ra, and He Bo. Although I'd pick Isis or Agni over Anubis. Why are they missing gods?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by KingLion » November 9, 2014 1:29pm | Report
I'm not really sure. This is their site. http://sm.qq.com/guide/smjs-qb.shtml

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HolyPudding » November 9, 2014 1:49pm | Report
KingLion wrote:

I wanted to see any more reasons (although your reasons make sense), and I found out that the chinese client doesn't have all the gods. So this are the ones, so you can discuss some more:

These are the gods in the list and the ones who're missing:

Roman Pantheon

- Bacchus and Cupid and Vulcan

Missing: Hercules, and Mercury, Sylvanus ( Nox too)


Egyptian Pantheon

- Neith, Anubis, Anhur and Eset

Missing: Bastet, Ra, Serqet, and Sobek


Nordic Pantheon

- Thor, Fenrir, Odin, Ymir, Tyr, Freya and Hel

Missing: Loki, Ullr


Greek Pantheon

- Ares, Aphrodite, Poseidon, Apollo, Thanatos, Hades, Athena and Zeus

Missing: Arachne, Artemis, and Chronos


Chinese Pantheon

- Ne Zha, Chang'e, Sun Wukong, He Bo, Zhong Kui

Missing: Nu Wa


Mayan Pantheon

- Xbalanque, Chaac

Missing: Hun Batz, Ah Muzen Cab, Cabrakan.



Hindu Pantheon

- Agni, Kali

Missing: Bakasura, Vamana, Rama


ARE. YOU. ****ING. KIDDING ME????

So, China gets all *****y about hwo nu wa looks and plays so we had her remodelled and made into a ****ty, overpowered game breaking piece of **** for them to not even INCLUDE HER???? Oh my god, I am so ****ing pissed about this....
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HammaSmite » November 9, 2014 3:11pm | Report
KingLion wrote:

I wanted to see any more reasons (although your reasons make sense), and I found out that the chinese client doesn't have all the gods. So this are the ones, so you can discuss some more:

These are the gods in the list and the ones who're missing:

Roman Pantheon

- Bacchus and Cupid and Vulcan

Missing: Hercules, and Mercury, Sylvanus ( Nox too)


Egyptian Pantheon

- Neith, Anubis, Anhur and Eset

Missing: Bastet, Ra, Serqet, and Sobek


Nordic Pantheon

- Thor, Fenrir, Odin, Ymir, Tyr, Freya and Hel

Missing: Loki, Ullr


Greek Pantheon

- Ares, Aphrodite, Poseidon, Apollo, Thanatos, Hades, Athena and Zeus

Missing: Arachne, Artemis, Janus and Chronos


Chinese Pantheon

- Ne Zha, Chang'e, Sun Wukong, He Bo, Zhong Kui

Missing: Nu Wa


Mayan Pantheon

- Xbalanque, Chaac

Missing: Hun Batz, Ah Muzen Cab, Cabrakan.



Hindu Pantheon

- Agni, Kali

Missing: Bakasura, Vamana, Rama

Actually, Chronos is in there. Check again.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by KingLion » November 9, 2014 5:20pm | Report
HammaSmite wrote:

Actually, Chronos is in there. Check again.


You are right, edited.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by festive1 » November 9, 2014 11:44pm | Report
Wait.. what happens when the top Chinese/Asian teams go to the smite world championship? So confused.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GeouZu » November 10, 2014 12:50am | Report
Yeah thats the question. There won't be time for Chinese players to play and try out all those gods before the worlds. So it is a bit confusing because lets say - Serqet, Ra, Nu Wa, Merc, Rama are high-priority picks (and there are others) and if players from EU,NA,Latin America and Brazil can play them right now to practice for worlds then Chinese players are at a very bad spot...

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