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Hello I'm not new to smite nor to mages but I am Having a huge issue while using Isis, I die way to often with her and almost never make kills, even tho i manage to play better with Anubis which is arguably more frail than Isis. I want to keep a high damage output while being able to play her well, I dunno if I am playing her wrongly, any tips on how to play her?

My current Build is in order of purchase

Shoes of the Magi
Book of Thoth
Warlock's Sash
Chrono's Pendant
Rod of Tahuti
Soul Reaver

Please if you suggest another build justify why it is better than mine. BTW this is XBOX ONE

I'm open to all recommendations and tips

Thanks in advance

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well for one penetration matters hugely in terms of damage, like more so than just additional damage items, especially late game. This includes against squishy characters as well, not just against tanks and such. On , I'd definitely recommend grabbing around 4th item for the damage boost. Aside from that, two stacking items is a bit overkill, I'd recommend either or warlock's sash, not both (I personally like warlock's sash on for the extra survivability). Aside from that, your build is fine really, maybe just look into some gameplay tips and practice with her.

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Yeah i noticed after i posted this that i forgot the penetration

I was thinking on replacing Book for Gem of Isolation and I have another question

Can you pleas explain me the difference between Spear of the Magus and Obsidian Shard? I know one gives you 15 magical penetration and the other one ignores 33% of enemies magical protection, but which one is better and why?

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The passive on is better against 90% of enemies as long as you have some way to get its stacks. Abilities with tick damage or multiple hits like are great for stacking its passive, making it usually superior on those gods. However some gods like and have more trouble getting these stacks since they rely on one or two abilities primarily for their damage (and have high power single hit ultimates). Thus in this scenario is a better option.

(Also if you have more questions like this, i made a guide on when and why to use/build smite's items which already contains everything I said here and more. There's a link on my signature)

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it's also a bit your playstyle doesn't fall under the glass cannons she is partly more an utility mage (as her ult heals also heals and gives protection (I'm not sure about the protections but I believe they where))

also taking obsidian or spear depends on the enemy team as well. as most gods start with 30 MP and no scalings (all hunters and mages) or have low scalings (all other classes end at ~48 protections at lvl 20 without items)

meaning spear reduces 50% of mages and adc protections (as they don't buy magical prot) and obsidian only ~10

however against 48 obsidian removes a bit more (2 protections or something but those classes normally build protections too)

still if you can easily get those 2 stacks (which most mages can) spear is better as it removes 20 flat with 20% and 15 flat pen meaning on a target with 150 protections you will reduce it with (according to the order of armor pen/reduction):

1. 150*0.8=120 mprot (after the % reduction).
2. 120-20=100 mprot (after the 20 flat reduction)
3. (no % pen so to step 4)
4. 100-15= 85 mprot (after the flat pen)
total reduction of 65 protections

and obsidian gives your oppponent
150*0.67=100.5 mprot only a reduction of 49.5

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's penetration is only better above 270 protections. And nobody builds into that much magical protection pretty much ever because of physical protections being more valuable. Mathematically, is better in almost every single way, the only difference is the extra MP that gives you. Here's a chart that shows how each item fares against different numbers of magical protection.

x = protections
- [(.8*x)-35]
- .67*x

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(psst green there is a mistake in one of your formula's 15+20 is 35 not 25. and also no one has 0 protections)

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Ignore my incapability of simple addition :>. Yeah, nobody has 0 protections, just for the sake of the table I guess.

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So I should always use spear over shard? Unless my opponent is building massive protection?

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Not always it really depends on the god you are playing too because some gods can't combo abilities as fast to make good use of spear.

spear is best for gods that have DoT (or something like ) however for certain gods I would sooner use shard (low number of damage abilties and no DoT ( is the best example here as his damage comes from and )

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