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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » October 15, 2014 7:21pm | Report
I get most of your points Sub, but I disagree with you saying there's no counter builds in Smite. You can probably say confidently there's more items in League;more counter builds. However even with limited items there's tons of possibilities you can do with them that most people don't think of.

What gamemodes are you comparing? The "main" ones? Conquest? But Smite has ranked Joust 1v1's wut? How can you compare a gamemode literally all about counterbuilding/picks be compared to league. Sure, League has 1v1 but does League have Arena? Or Siege?

Anyways, Riot has had 3 years after launch to perfect everything. Smite has been out of beta for only around half a year? And don't hmu with that ******** excuse oh HotS or some other game has it down perfect. They don't. Not to mention Smite is a completely different game type. Sure, it's in the same genre and similar gamemodes of gaming but you cannot compare the backgrounds these other companies are coming from. Um...Blizzard? I really reckon Gigantic will not be perfect if any of you have tried it yet.

but meh what do I care

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 15, 2014 10:11pm | Report
I still find it funny that people think that just because people insta ban a God means all the other Gods suck LOLOL

Well lets see, you can only a ban a few Gods, no **** your going to ban the best God you think is good.

Devios plays ****ing Tyr Solo lane and I literally watched a game a few days ago where he had over 7 Kills and made the other team surrender.

Yes Tyr is garbage too

Or have you ever herd of "Be good"

I guess Tyr is a scrub, but that's why the other team surrendered to a scrub Tyr right??

Most : Note the word MOST gods in SMite are balanced.

If anyone thinks the majority or half gods in Smite are unbalanced they are insane.

There are only a few Gods that someone can say are under powered

and only a few Gods people can say are over powered.

*Realize the difference between over powered and strong pick*

People pick Geb because hes a strong pick, they don't ban him because he is over powered.

If any of you were to tell me Geb is OP I would ****ing laugh.

Geb can't do any damage to me, if I seen him ganking me I would LAUGH because I know he ain't going to do **** to me, I fear ****ing sobek more then geb.

The only reason Geb is banned is because of his Shield that allows his team mates to make plays.

If you take gebs shield away he really ain't that good.

Almost every God in Smite can be played and played well, even played on a Pro level.

Majority of the Gods in Smite are balanced.

If you die, you don't die from something that is OP, you got **** on because you made a mistake.

Only a God like Apollo can you even start to complain okay maybe he has too much

But he is few of the exceptions and like I said MOST are balanced, the game overall is balanced.

****ing beads and aegis are counters to most of the **** in smite, yet people are still complaining about a ult which can be easily countered by Aegis or beads ??

Let me make a list of Gods and show you why its your fault for getting **** on

Literally like 95% of the Gods in the game are balanced, literally 95% of the Gods in the game can be countered buy either active items such as beads/aegis or weakening curse/anti heal items.

Here is the list of Gods and why you got **** on by them, only a few are strong to the point you can just say "That God is strong that's why I died"

- Agni = Your fault for getting **** on

- AMC = If you get **** on by him don't even complain

- Anhur = Cry because it was your fault for dying

- Anubis = Buy beads or aegis you noob

- Aphro = if you die by her you lack prediction of her easy **** you know shes going to do

- Apollo = Other than him ulting you when you didn't see him, its your damn fault for dying

- Arachne = Close range, your fault noob

- Ares = Your the one who decided to eat his chains, its your fault

- Artemis = Buy ****ing beads or aegis for her ULT DERP DERP DERP

- Athena = other than getting ulted on you have no room to complain if you let her taunt you

- Bacchus = yes because you didn't know he was going to do a predictable belly flop

- Bakasura = Everything is close range, your fault if he gets close on you, buy wards kids

- Bastet = You already know she is going to jump then jump back

- Cabraken = If you get **** on by him you suck, if he has blink you should have checked

- Chaac = Avoid his poke the end

- Change = She is just going to spam 1 very simple

- Chronos = That's what happens when you get stunned, next time don't get hit by his 3

- Cupid = Buy beads or aegis for his ult idiot duh

- Freya = Okay, her ult is op with her kit, but she is one of the exceptions

- Fenrir = Really? Of course he is going to jump, are you blind?

- Geb = He can't even kill **** by himself, if you die by Geb just give up on Smite

- Guan Yu = Everything is close range, your fault

- Hades = So predictable 1, avoid it and he can never kill you

- Hebo = Don't go near him close range, its your fault if he ults your face at close range

- Hel = Really, that is your fault for feeding her

- Hercules = Buy weakening curse and anti heal items DUH, he has a certain range as well

- Hun batz = He is very strong but you know damn well he is just going to jump then ult you

- Isis = You can't see that slow *** ball????

- Janus = His 1 does all his damage, avoid his portal and you don't die

- Kali = She takes skill, if you die by her its your own fault

- Kulkulkan = Aegis his ult and he can't really kill you unless you sit in tornado's

- ***bha = Okay, you have time to get away from him by time he kills you, its your own fault

- Loki = Aegis his ult our counter him out of his vanish

- Merc = Okay he is strong, but again few exceptions, buy beads for his damn grab IDIOT please

- Ne Zha = buy ****ing beads or aegis the end

- Neith = Buy beads or aegis the end, she relies on roots, its obvious don't get rooted

- Nem = She relies on her ult, beads out of it or stay the hell away from her when you see her

- Nu Wa = Aegis her ult, don't let minions get near you

- Odin = your fault if you let him jump on your face then explode a shield on you, its obvious

- Osiris = He is annoying as hell when on you, but its your fault for letting him get on you

- Poseidon = Aegis his ult the end

- Ra = Buy weakening curse and anti heal items, he is strong but has no real burst besides ult

- Rama = Strong pick, if you die by his ult its because the other person has skill with it

- Scylla = Eh, she is strong

- Serquet = Annoying

- Sobek = Avoid the pull or aegis his ult

- Sun Wukong = Avoid the grab

- Sylvannus = If you die by him its 1000% your fault

- Thanatos = Aegis his ult, avoid his poke

- Thor = Strong, can't do much if you don't see his ult coming but you can aegis it

- Tyr = Your fault for getting blinked if you knew he had it, he is all close range

- Ullr = Needs to land full 6 combo to kill you, if you let him then he got some skill

- Vamana = Strong baby, one of the exceptions

- Vulcan = Has no escape, avoid his ult and meatballs, you can aegis or jump out his ult

- Xbl = Avoid darts stop before his ult or beads it

- Ymir = Don't allow him to freeze you pretty simple

- Zeus = Lol, that's why you don't underestimate him and let him build 3 stacks on you

- Zhong = You didn't see his big close range *** coming?????

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 15, 2014 10:21pm | Report
Explain to me all the Gods on that list that are unbalanced and explain to me how its not your fault for dying to them.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 15, 2014 11:48pm | Report
ICEN wrote:

Explain to me all the Gods on that list that are unbalanced and explain to me how its not your fault for dying to them.

Im in too much stress because i have 2 important tests today to name all the gods i think are badly balenced but i can give you prove of hirez badly balencing their game.

Look at all the OP releases they have had to hot fix over the distant and not so distant past.

Guan yu, fenrir and nemesis to just mention 3 and some of those the just left running wild for a long as time, makes you wander if hirez does damage checks to see what each god was capable of.

And then proof number 2 is how they nerf some gods BY POWERCREEP! Thor anyone? They nerfed him a little so his spintowin could he stopped easier but he is still as strong as he ever was.
Sobek? I don't think they nerfed that flipping croc at all but he fell put as well.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » October 16, 2014 12:08am | Report
Greenevers wrote:

I get most of your points Sub, but I disagree with you saying there's no counter builds in Smite. You can probably say confidently there's more items in League;more counter builds. However even with limited items there's tons of possibilities you can do with them that most people don't think of.
Name them. Name the possibilities on anyone except bruisers.

Greenevers wrote:
What gamemodes are you comparing? The "main" ones? Conquest? But Smite has ranked Joust 1v1's wut? How can you compare a gamemode literally all about counterbuilding/picks be compared to league. Sure, League has 1v1 but does League have Arena? Or Siege?
Of course I'm talking about Conquest. That's the single mode common to EVERY MOBA.

Also, your sentences are awfully structured. I don't know what you're talking about, literally. WHAT mode is all about counterbuilding? (Also, you still haven't given any examples.)

And why the **** are you mentioning Joust? Or 1v1s? What did you think I was talking about? And how the **** does Smite having 1v1s have anything to do with Smite being worse than League?

But if you want to go that way: Smite destroys and ruins game modes. Aka Domination and unranked Joust 1v1. No ranked Joust 3v3, either. Removed Ranked Arena, too.

League: Team Ranked Summoner's Rift, soloQ ranked Summoner's Rift, ranked 3v3 Twisted Treeline, ARAM, Ascension, Team Builder Summoner's Rift, Blind Pick Summoner's Rift, Draft Pick Summoner's Rift, Dominion...and not a single feature was removed.

OMG Smite has Joust 1v1 Ranked. Well, LoL has Twisted Treeline ranked AND unranked AND didn't remove it from the ranked playlists or remove Dominion, AND they have Ascension.

Greenevers wrote:
Anyways, Riot has had 3 years after launch to perfect everything. Smite has been out of beta for only around half a year? And don't hmu with that ******** excuse oh HotS or some other game has it down perfect. They don't. Not to mention Smite is a completely different game type. Sure, it's in the same genre and similar gamemodes of gaming but you cannot compare the backgrounds these other companies are coming from. Um...Blizzard? I really reckon Gigantic will not be perfect if any of you have tried it yet.
Dawngate has their **** together with less time and money than HiRez. Oh, and they don't try to take your money, either.

And Dawngate is about as different from League as Smite is, if not more. Let's not forget how a lot of things were copypasta'd from League, like Magi's Blessing, Hide of the Nemean Lion, and some other ****. If you're an Alpha/Closed Beta tester, you'd get what I'm talking about. It literally started off as a clone of League, only with four jungles and simpler itemization.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 16, 2014 12:28am | Report
Greenevers i'd like to mention 2 things.

Gigantic is being made by a head developer of starcraft... You know that game that got so balenced it became chess.

Smite still uses similar mechanics as all moba's do, im sick of the excuse that smite is so different because its in 3rd person you shouldn't compare it. Its a bad excuse.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Deathsession » October 16, 2014 5:00am | Report
Devampi.

Haha. I only said that cause, along time ago Icen was ranting about dbz being awesome or some ****. Was a 10 page thread. Then later said he's just trolling.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » October 16, 2014 5:37am | Report
All4Games wrote:

Greenevers i'd like to mention 2 things.

Gigantic is being made by a head developer of starcraft... You know that game that got so balenced it became chess.

Smite still uses similar mechanics as all moba's do, im sick of the excuse that smite is so different because its in 3rd person you shouldn't compare it. Its a bad excuse.


I know I said I'd stay out of it, but I can't help but point out.

Considering MOBA gameplay is a lot about environmental awareness, it's not like being in 3rd person is only a cosmetic difference. It entirely shifts the way you have to think and play the game.

Just a thought.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 16, 2014 6:03am | Report
not enough to make it an excuse. you may have to look behind you but wards still work the same and with the ward pings its even easier to know where some one is.

the danger from behind is not limited to just smite because other moba's make up with that by brushes. especially dawngate which has a side jungle to the lanes with on the exit from that jungle to lane creates that.

it shifts gameplay yeah but not 100%, you wont play other moba's that different since the main goal is the same and you are also thinking similar in doing a few quick looks at numbers befor ingaging to make sure you have enough to kill some one.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » October 16, 2014 6:12am | Report
All4Games wrote:

not enough to make it an excuse. you may have to look behind you but wards still work the same and with the ward pings its even easier to know where some one is.

the danger from behind is not limited to just smite because other moba's make up with that by brushes. especially dawngate which has a side jungle to the lanes with on the exit from that jungle to lane creates that.

it shifts gameplay yeah but not 100%, you wont play other moba's that different since the main goal is the same and you are also thinking similar in doing a few quick looks at numbers befor ingaging to make sure you have enough to kill some one.


It may not shift gameplay 100%, but I think for a lot of players, the third person is what separates Smite from the rest of the other MOBAS.

It may not be a big deal to you specifically, but apparently it's important to the people who play Smite.
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