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Hey guys,
this is my 2nd guide here on smitefire. This time I will show you my build for Ymir.
As i said above this guide is for a cooldown and focus Ymir.
Mark of the Vanguard helps especially in the beginning when enemy gods cant't do that much damage. Besides it's great against enemy minions which also will do 5 less damage.
I still prefer the Reinforced Boots even though there are the Boots of Celerity giving you cooldown reduction and focus. In my opinion you need the HP5 and MP5 as well as the Magical and Physical Protection. Besides we will get maximum cooldown reduction and focus with the other items.
Chronos' Pendant is one of the most important items in my build. It grants you more focus, MP5 and magical power plus: on lvl 3 it reduces your cooldowns by 25%. It is really annoying for any enemy god playing against a Ymir that can use his stun every few (I think with full build 11) seconds. Especially when the stun duration is 3 seconds.
To get more cooldown reduction but also to don't forget our protection and focus I buy Breastplate of Valor next. It will grant us a 25% cooldown reduction as well as 75 physical protection and 30 focus (the mana isn't that important).
We already got our maximum (35%) in cooldown reduction now but still we need some more focus. And of course I tried to increase our defensive too. That's why I buy Bracer of Replenishment which grants us 15 HP5 , 9 MP5 and 30 focus as well as an aura giving us (and our allies) 20 HP5 and 10 MP5
My last item is Bulwark of Hope which will increase our focus up to 100 and also gives us more health and magical protection. Moreover it gives us a shield when our health is low.
Pros:
During the early-game your stun isn't that powerful but still you can kill some squishy gods if you get a good laning partner.
Try to use your stun whenever a god comes too close to you. If you know the chat-commands use them before engaging (such as VA1-3). Try to get hit by the enemy god before freezing him. That will cause your minions to attack him (which will do quite good damage in the beginning).
Try to annoy your enemy gods as much as possible with your Frost Breath and Glacial Strike.
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This guide is alright.
Things that made this guide good
-A good way of giving two different playstyles of Ymir
-Not 'wall of text-ish' yet informative
-Longer explanation of Ice Wall compared to some other guides.
Things that stood out
-The advertisement section was entertainting.
Things that could use improvement
-A better use of C.I.S (Colors, Icons, and Sections)
I feel like this guide was rushed a little compared to your other one, hopefully you edit this one more and try to add sections. Overall, this guide is weaker compared to your other guide, but I'm being really lenient on this guide. Please add more.
3.95/5.00
Thx for your feedback I will try to improve it. Will change the title if its updated again :)
Now, if you wanted to play ymir more like a "control mage" than a tank, those boots could work: you'd have to remember to stay out of the line of fire, but the ability to position 3 second aoe stuns, huge aeo slows, and a 7 second impassible wall anywhere in the fight is something (perhaps) worth the sacrifice in survivability. I wouldn't try it in a pub game, though, unless you have a very good tank who you can trust to soak up the cc you'd normally be eating.
Good guide all around, thanks for sharing!
;D
However, your argument that "vanguard and boots have MR" is silly: that's 30 MR total, way too little for a melee tank like Ymir. If you haven't gotten face rolled by mages yet then you haven't faced any good ones... think of it this way, since most teams get/have some magic pen you essentially have NO extra MR from items. You simply cannot tank magic damage effectively with this build.
Also, Chronos pendant AND breastplate is way too expenseive, and way too much CDR and MP5... YMIR doesn't spam his abilities, he simply needs a good mana pool to constantly cast in teamfights. I think breastplate, with the armor and 550 mana, is the clear winner over pendant. 50 mp does very little for his damage output, and the 25mp5 is WAY overkill, and will still have you falling short in early team fights where having more spells now (mana) is far better than having more spells later (waiting for regen). I recommend ditching chronos entirely and getting breastplate first.
In both items the 25 cdr is a massive boost to his team fight utility, but since he can cast more spells faster mana is the better choices vs mp5. Since the max cdr is 40, and jungle buff gives 15, you can get max cdr with ONE of these items... so getting both his a huge waste of gold. If you do nothing else to this very good guide, please consider this. Chronos is a waste of money on characters unless they can really benefit from the 25mp5: breastplate is almost always the better choice, particularly for melee characters.
Two of the strongest MR items on YMIR are stone of gaia (for regen tanking), and void stone (for extra damage)... either of these items would be FAR better than chronos pendant after you get your breastplate. You want damage, void stone gives you same mp, reduces defenses, gives focus, AND gives 50 MR.... as opposed to what, 25mp5? stone of gaia will give you enough mana regen for ymir's purposes AND give you incredible health regen on top of that.
TL;DR REPLACE CHRONOS PENDANT! :-P
Things that made this guide good
-A good way of giving two different playstyles of Ymir
-Not 'wall of text-ish' yet informative
-Longer explanation of Ice Wall compared to some other guides.
Things that stood out
-The advertisement section was entertainting.
Things that could use improvement
-A better use of C.I.S (Colors, Icons, and Sections)
I feel like this guide was rushed a little compared to your other one, hopefully you edit this one more and try to add sections. Overall, this guide is weaker compared to your other guide, but I'm being really lenient on this guide. Please add more.
3.95/5.00
-Escap3
U should maybe try with a voidstone for the pen (Also works for ur teammates as u're gonna be close for stun), also it gives a pretty nice amount of focus and protection
- Avador
Ok thx I will try this instead of the Stone of Gaia and will edit the guide later on.
Ymirs ultimate with 100 focus has a wicked slow built in. Creeping curse is a waste.
I usually buy Creeping Curse when I have a partner without any stun on my lane AND the enemies have no jumps. creeping curse is just for the time I haven't got 100 focus. In the beginning it is quite hard to hit enemies with your ult cause even if they cant jump they just can go out of your ult.
Of course later with 3 seconds stun and the slow they won't be able to escape anymore and creeping curse isn't that important anymore but still you can use it to escape or help any teammate killing or fleeing.
-Escap3
- Avador
And as I said in my guide its NOT a fulltank Ymir. But a little bit more offensive with less protection.