Super cheap for a small chunk of health.
Relic Dagger also gives you extra mobility and a nice passive to reduce your blink CD. It doesn't give much defense though, so if you are far behind, or have another good initiator on your team, you may need to skip this for a tankier option.
Newly viable as of season 6, this is a nice cheap item that gives some armor and innate protection shred. 3 of
Geb's abilities can proc this item, 2 on an entire team! I wouldnt get this AND
Relic Dagger, but the choice between the two comes down to quality vs quantities of Blink+Ult combos.
The two most common choices of 6th item, the
Cloak of Concentration brothers.
Spirit Robe has become my first choice for one major reason: you cant
Stone Shield if you are stunned. The CCR on this item keeps you active and ready to defend your allies as often as possible, and
Geb only really dies while CC'd, so the passive helps him have time to
Roll Out of there.
Mantle of Discord is the big daddy of split-defense items, giving a massive amount of survivablity, a get out of jail free card, and a bit of CDR. Expensive but worth its cost, you may have trouble getting the passive to proc at the right time.
Seemingly an odd choice on
Geb. The aura is actually super useful for your team, it can make up for missing CDR earlier in the build, and the lifesteal is actually pretty useful since
Geb has no sustain himself. Barely tanky at all though, so keep that in mind.
This is an excellent choice for players who want to play more "support" than "tank"
This item should not be built 5th or 6th, outclassed by
Relic Dagger with similar defensive stats. However, if the game goes on long enough, it may be a good idea to sell your
Shoes for this item, to get some late game tankiness.
2 Rules for doing this:
Have
Relic Dagger in your build earlier to keep 20% movement speed.
If you sell
Shoes of Focus for this, make sure you still have 20%+ CDR elsewhere to keep
Cataclysm and
Stone Shield on low CD.
Midgardian Mail can really mess up some gods like
Mercury,
Erlang Shen, and
Izanami. Making them deal less damage AND not be able to chase, it can completely mess up a team fight for those gods. Its new passive can be brutal, though it is better the higher attack speed the enemy has, so they can proc it faster.
If they are ignoring you too much to proc this passive,
Witchblade can do the same thing at the expensive of tankiness. I'd recommend building it 7th like
Winged Blade above.
Note: Getting BOTH
Witchblade and
Midgardian Mail can completely shut down all auto-attack gods on the enemy team. If they have AA heavy gods in 3+ roles (usually Solo and Jungle), get both of these to neuter their team completely.
In rare cases, you may need even more magical defense / anti healing in the late game. Don’t be afraid of stacking
Pestilence with
Heartward Amulet or Genji’s Guard If a
Freya or
Raijin is giving you a hard time.
Nice to see that you've come back (see that you originally created your account in 2016) and that you're contributing with comments and guides.
So, Geb. To be truthful, I can't stand the god. He seems sooooooo boring to me. I won't hold that against him though.
You max Shock Wave at level 9...it does pretty good damage especially for a tank...but wondering if level 4 would be enough to help quickly clear jungle camps solo, while you start getting your Stone Shield more online at that point.
I'm okay with your start...have you been finding Guardian's Blessing to have enough mana sustain that you can afford getting both chalices to start? (Or are you getting only Chalice of Healing + some Multi Potions or Mana Potions, and picking up Chalice of the Oracle after your first back? Some clarification here would be helpful unless I missed it somewhere in your writeup)
I don't think Spectral Armor should be considered for Geb. As you mention, he already has reduced crit damage in Hard as Rock, so normal players will know that and automatically NOT want to target him unless he's the only target (which also makes Hide of the Nemean Lion potentially less effective). As such, I feel that other items that have better counter function that helps the team as a whole is often going to be better...you do have Pythagorem's Piece in there, which is one good offensive option, but I think Witchblade (which you don't list), Void Stone (if you have 2 other magical gods on your team and they haven't picked this up), or just more CDR for more Stone Shields would be better.
Also goes with Mantle of Discord and Shield of Thorns, actually...since if the enemy knows what they're doing, they won't be targeting the tank first. Unless you're in the midst of a burst of AOE, the trigger for Mantle's passive won't be of much help to anyone but you...by the time your health is that low, it's very possible that your teammates have already died.
Finally, I think another helpful relic option is Cursed Ankh.
Anyway, would like to hear your thoughts.
I actually always thought he was super boring too. Roll Out landing at max speed is fun enough he completely swung for me, and I got him to mastery 5 in a week lol.
Even with maxed Shock Wave, geb has a really hard time clearing camps solo. And that has become super important with the xp changes. I also mostly am using Stone Shield for the cleanse until around 12.
I actually stopped buying Meditation Cloak because I never ran out of mana pre-level 5. I think Geb is one of the least mana hungry supports, since you use basically only 90 mana average per wave (and recover 42 from assists and 30 from mp5). I'll clarify the starting items to specify Blessing+ double chalice.
That... is actually an excellent point on Spectral Armor. I don't like Witchblade on him since he cant use the attack speed, but Midgardian Mail fills the same niche.
Mantle is mostly there for the pile of protections it gives you, especially with anti-tank items being so strong right now. After the first 4 items, you are at ~200 Physical ~190 magical, so you need a good chunk more and it's too late to stack Urchin.
I am actually considering swapping in Spirit Robe instead. Ive been CC chained several times where I could have Stone Shield'd someone, and the CCR on that would help.
Thorns is a good point, especially since it isnt that good early and you'll be getting blink at 12
Thanks for all the feedback on my guides! Its really helping a ton
I still think Witchblade is an option (but this is your guide and you definitely have good points too). He'll appreciate the CDR, the little extra health (okay it's not that much), and if you end up getting Shoes of Focus early or late, the added movespeed helps. But it's still mostly about the passive aura to counter basic attackers (both magical and physical) that I find to have the most potential. Sure, the attack speed is a throwaway stat, but I don't know if it's that much of a loss of value given its other benefits.
Also, thanks for the info on the early mana use and whatnot...good stuff.