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You can swap shoes of focus out for reinforced shoes if facing an enemy with tick damage like Anubis or Skadi.
Best used for early aggression when your ADC can clear on their own. Swap out magi and binding late.
Pick 3 according to your build and matchups.
Pick according to your needs. Blink rune should usually be picked up second for blink + ults.
This is just a quick tank/hybrid Ymir build as requested by Kriega for the support role. In jungle you want Blink Rune, Assassin's Blessing, Void Stone, Stone of Binding, Polynomicon, and situational items as needed like Mantle of Discord, Magi's Cloak, etc.
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Shoes of magi
BoV
Void stone
Spear of desolation
Polynomicon
Divine ruin
Potion of magical might
Secondly ymir is a guardian and you took the time to calculate his KD. News flash for yah this isn't a shooter. The stat KDA exist and in this case is 1.52 not something to scoff about but also not awfull as you make it out to seem.
So easily said stats don't say a lot of things if you use them wrong
The build direction in general seems okay to me. Good early aggression via Binding, actual support function with Sov early-ish as an option. Only thing I don't like as much is Thebes that late in a build. If you don't get Thebes early, I might start preferring other items, e.g. counter items. I mean, it's okay...it's still a good item early or late...just at that point, you're looking less for dual protections and more utility.
In the end, I care less about the K/D or KDA of the creator, and more the quality and viability of the build itself. I'm very curious how you think this is "heavily built for arena." What quality makes it that to you, Thatch?
But there were very specific reasons why you (and me and others) had issues with his Zeus build, and you took some time to explain. His effort here just seems retaliatory just for the sake of it, and with no actual reasoning. Responding like that just seems jerk-y. I actually do want to hear his reasoning for his comments, if he has any. Maybe he does have a viable point to make...and so I want to give him the chance, but I don't like his initial comment the way it stands.
Also, using only K/D on a god that's typically more of a tank is isolating values that benefit his argument or point, without considering the true picture...which is, Ymir unless built pretty damage heavy, is still bruiser or tank, and the assists matter. KDA is a better measure in that respect.
KDA also won't say a lot if you won the game by splitpushing avoiding fights etc. All in all it's a decent overview stat especially compared to KD (cause kills can easily be credited to another). Still it's not better as certain detailed stats.
KDA is always a better measure of general success with the god. It lets you know if, even if they're not getting the kills, they're being a good participant in fights.
But back to K/D, for a tank, I don't necessarily expect more kills than deaths, but at the same time, it's also a potential measure of how skillfully you play with them, and again things like awareness. Especially in Arena, you can have a solid KDA (because just being near an enemy death gives you an assist), but it doesn't mean much if you're dying a ton...could just mean every time there's a fight, you're running in and getting blown up while your team gets at least a kill or two.
Also gotta say play some more ymir this season only 3 games yet XD
Also gotta say play some more ymir this season only 3 games yet XD
Even if it is only Arena, I need to get back to him at some point, he is my second lvl 10 after Bellona.
With blink/heavenly wing He still has decent escapability and also on a match by match basis there are some times he can cut loose. He probably is the guardian i have gotten my personal best assist total with though. He's fun regardless of his limitations.
Ymir has stronger burst potential than over half the other guardians, and a very strong CC ability, so if talking K/D (instead of KDA), you might expect his K/D to be a bit higher than that of, say, Khepri.
It doesn't make sense if there is no way he will get out (aka failing to flank and needing to get past the enemy team in the jungle 20 sec away from the nearest tower)
Ymir has stronger burst potential than over half the other guardians, and a very strong CC ability, so if talking K/D (instead of KDA), you might expect his K/D to be a bit higher than that of, say, Khepri.
Yes. You really have to time your abilities right as well. You have the blink/to ult combo which can be used to help teammates out of a pinch or if you hit it right can get them when the other team is low and it is easier to supercede the chargeup(edit, don't know why I had originally putcooldown-sleepy brain) to either get a kill or 2 or get them close enough to where another teammate can finish. Sometimes it is just nice to spread out the other team as they panic to get out(i mean, that isn't my first play, but sometimes it can help your team reset and recover instead of getting completely massacred). If you hit matches right he can pack some real punch if you don't have too much to worry about.
True, but if it looks like you are about to get zerged you can use it to get away before you get killed instead of waiting to use it to do the frost to ult combo. if they are still chasing and you have wing up you should still be able to get away most of the time too.
Come on man, that is weak. Ymir can do well in arena despite that. I know you know that and knew that way before I did. lol.
I played an Arena match just for you, Shell. Now stop harassing me. :P I still don't like sov in Arena, I think I'll just get Breastplate of Valor next time instead.
I played an Arena match just for you, Shell. Now stop harassing me. :P I still don't like sov in Arena, I think I'll just get Breastplate of Valor next time instead.
lol. I usually don't like that pick there either, definitely agree with Sov….especially since I like to run pen boots a lot on him for the early pen. damn, look at you with the 30 assists. You were supporting the hell out of your team. lol.
The reason my total KDA is so low with him is because I started playing around the end of Season 3 when I didn't know how to properly build. Now that I do, it's over 1 this season. :D 1.53 for a support ain't too shabby.
The reason my total KDA is so low with him is because I started playing around the end of Season 3 when I didn't know how to properly build. Now that I do, it's over 1 this season. :D 1.53 for a support ain't too shabby.
Solid reasoning on that. aside from that arena match i blogged i don't go team protections usually unless I am ares. Mine dipped a bit at the end of the stretch i played him, but I had just over a 2 something with him at some point. It's a 1.87 for me at this point and win rate is 50%. One of the ones tinkering for damage at times i didn't fudge up to badly. lol.
Your main combo is Ice Wall + Frost Breath + aa + Glacial Strike + aa. Use Shards of Ice after frost breath for an all-in approach.
Your main combo is Ice Wall + Frost Breath + aa + Glacial Strike + aa. Use Shards of Ice after frost breath for an all-in approach.
No problem Gulf. Yeah, I have those listed for situationals after the main build. Yeah, I usually do the ult after frost, sometimes if I notice they are using beads as an out I will glacial strike right after instead. He is a really versatile god, I need to get back to using him more again. I just keep getting "oooo shiny, shiny" into the other ones I have been buying.
heck, after trying out blink-ult ares for arena I also have a build set up to test that with Ymir since it would be pretty similar to do that with frostbreath/ult/glacier strike combos
Maybe add a few more item options like Spirit Robe/Mantle.