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Hello guys, My name is Ron. I just want to get your thoughts on . I main support and to me, I feel like his kit is sooooooooooooooooooo bad. His is so easy to miss. is kinda mediocre and easy to kill. His minion clearing wave sucks! the only thing that useful for him is his ultimate I guess it's okay for pushing enemy to towers or breaking a fight but til then that's it? I've tried to save my team mates from dying but most of the time I failed trying to push em away. There's nothing really I can do from it. Do you think Hi-Rez needs to fix this god?

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He's not really a support god, he's a solo lane guardian similar to , and is pretty item dependant. You need to play him as an in your face disruption character similar to Ares or Osiris and try to stand in front of the adc and mages as much as possible. He lacks a real peel ability so staying near your backline really prevents you from doing much and greatly reduces the reflect damage from spikes.

Level Priority
: Max this first. It's strong poke from range, decent clear, and doesn't do a ton until later in the game. You want to use this mainly as an annoyance throughout the game.

: Max this second. By now people should have enough items that it'll actually be reflecting a decent amount of damage. It also benefits from maxing first as you can get multiple out depending on how much you get hit. This is when you really want to start diving the enemy damage dealers. Important to remember is that you can activate this during CC or after you start your ult.

: Focus on leveling this 3rd, but only put 1 point into it until the first two abilities are maxed. It's only a 50 damage increase for the first hit and a 25 damage on successive hits so the cooldown on and guaranteed damage on is stronger. You want to use this on the enemy damage before they can use their spells to either force actives or prevent them from using their damage allowing your damage dealers to hit the other people first. This is much stronger as a disrupt than set up and where the spin pushes the enemy can be kinda random.

: This is the last ability you want to max. It's only a 30 damage increase and isn't the easiest ability to hit. Most of the time you'll use this to further displace the enemy damage dealers, but it is possible to use as peel. However, very rarely is this going to be actual set up.

Build Example
My general build
,,,,Health Item, whatever else I need. Relics: team relic or sunder and

Hide of the Nemean and are core items that you should be getting pretty much every game. It allows him to do 115% damage reflect on enemy autos for 3 seconds, and 75% for the remaining 5 seconds. This means that if your relics are up and you're in front of the enemy adc they'll have to run or kill themself on your reflect.

The rest of the build is focused around CDR for more , protections and health for survivability, and penetration so enemies prevent less of your ability damage and your power scaling sucks.

With this build and playstyle I'm frequently top kills, damage, and mitigated in the game. Overall the god is fine and even has seen play in the SPL by Maniakk in the Obey vs Rival game where he went 6-1-11.

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oh okay. I just don't like putting guardians in the solo lane, If I do I'll just use then xP.

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Dammit Duo, just turn this into a guide already!!! LOL

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I've got to finish the hunter thing first lol

(16) |

I've been playing him a lot recently and I focus a lot on my team opposed to myself. I've been building mostly aura items as of late. He has a very "disruptive" play-style so building with that in mind may help you feel more effective.

Build:

This was a Joust game facing a , and . I built a healthier amount of Physical Protections than I normally would largely du to the potential DPS output that and could have. I ended up doing really well and going 3-1-15. In the midst of all this, I somehow managed to get a Triple Kill during a team-fight at the Bull Demon King (God Bless ).

I'd say enter the game with the mindset of setting your team up. You can do this with a lot of Aura Items to help keep them alive and use and to your advantage. If you're in the thick of things you can literally always have off-cooldown due to the passive on .

Leveling Priority:
- First
- Second
- Third
- When Possible

I prioritized in order to get my % of Damage Taken to 40% ASAP. This is Joust, so Players Damage will come online a lot faster than other game modes like Conquest and Clash. Lastly, this allows 's cooldown to reduce by 1.3s every time I take a hit w/ active.

First 5 Levels:

I hope this helps!

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I have the same build, but I also feel like is EXTREMELY squishy. Don't you think? btw nice watery graphics. LOL. xD

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I've been thinking about this all weekend and have done some research on compared to other Guardians as a whole. So there are 14 Guardians currently in Smite and I'd like to offer a little comparison of Guardians based on HP, Physical Protections, and Magical Protections.

Based on HP ONLY. Ranks as the 5th Guradian w/ 2,400 HP. Trailing behind , , and . Which isn't bad at all, he among the Top 5 in this category.

Now, almost all of the Guardians have the same amount of base protections. For the most part the Guardians range from 77 to 89 Physical Protections and have 48 Magical Protections besides whom, is top tier when it comes to Magical Protections at 90. The next analysis I did was comparing with the other Guardians based on HP, Physical Protections, and Magical Protections

- 2590, 89, 48
- 2500, 84, 48
- 2400, 84, 48
- 2490, 82, 48
- 2400, 82, 48

Again, we can see that is among the Top 5 in this category. So. being extremely squishy can be argued when looking at base stats. But, now we have to ask ourselves, where does show his weakness? And that's with his damage.

A Reddit user by the name of Cellbite has provided a fairly detailed analysis of Guardians and how they compare in terms of Base Damage.

A Comparison of Guardian base Damage Numbers

As we can see, based on base damage... ranks a dismal 8th among Guardians putting him in the bottom half of Guardians, but Cellbite was kind enough to provide an additional ranking system based on the additional effects of abilities. with that being said, ranks 3rd among the Guardians which is good an bad. Yes, he has high damage from ability effects, but this mean you will have to rely on your abilities nearly 100% of the time which is manageable.

Now, just averaging the ranks that Cellbite and I provided, ranks 5th or 6th in terms of Guardians as a whole. I know a lot of people have been saying that is underpowered and ineffective, but looking purely at the base stats, he's right up in the top picks for Guardians. When it comes to , I think your performance will rely on your build. I know that's sort of a cop out and obvious answer, but it is the truth. There is no doubt that he has a slightly bigger learning curve based on the mechanics of some his abilities such as and maximizing the effects of .

I know this was a long winded post, but I hope it shows a different perspective to as a Guardian.

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Those colors are on point, Murmz.

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I learned from the best! :D

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No water, though...

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#NewWaterGraphic

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7.8, too much water.

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*Nervously updates water graphic*

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Now it's perfect

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Let's not forget that his damage has been buffed since this post and now he can spam his NeNe much more quickly. I think that the problem with him is that his CC pushes people away from you, so he is very reliant on to use them properly. That wouldn't be much of a problem if his NeNe slowed/stunned people (maybe only if ricocheted before?).

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I left out the section in the original Reddit post that addresses that the numbers were edited to his current state. I should have left that in there.

"Edit 1: Added NeNe Kappa basic attack damage to Kuzenbo as suggested by Merlle. Thus he now is rank 3 with the additional damage (from 10).

Edit 2: Changed Kuzenbo 3 to be consistent with other abilities listed and have all hits included as base damage instead of additional damage as per discussion with Bintzer. Moves from 11 in base damage ranks to 8.

Edit 3: Kuzenbo damage/ability has been updated to reflect above changes."

I agree with you that when ricocheted, should has some CC effect either a slow, a stun, or a root. Of course, one of these would only occur if the ricochet of the actually hits the opponent opposed to being ricocheted and then walking up to the nearest opponent.

HiRez could have made this skill a lot more interesting by giving it stages. Such as, summons and throws the powerful NeNe Kappa, who can ricochet off of walls. After firing, if the NeNe Kappa bounces off of a wall one time, it will root the first Enemy God it hits for 1s and attack them for 6s. If the NeNe Kappa bounces off a wall two times, it will stun the first Enemy God hit for 1s and attack them for 6s additionally dealing damage over time for 2s after the Kappa is destroyed. Each ricochet can travel up to 70 units from its richochet point (Max 2 Bounces).

This will actually give players an incentive to ricochet for it will have benefits in doing so.

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It could also always root, but only stuns when ricocheted.

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Bern that would be alot. The ricochet idea i like more, but not a hard cc. He really needs a soft cc. His only CC besides his ult is his so it would make sense for him to have another form of cc.

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OMG this comment is beautiful af

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#WaterGraphics

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I think you're just playing him wrong. Instead of playing like a normal guardian and trying to help your team, think only about yourself and focus on pushing the other team in completely random directions. Like Hercules!

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Well people talk **** on me when I don't try to save them. They keep spamming "You Rock, Cancel That!"

LOL

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