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yeah i miss CC (just a little slow)
but i have counter-CC so i can counter the enemy-Guardian?
and i have Heal, which can also be very valuable
and i hit harder than any Tank could dream of. So i thought this might kinda count too.

But anyway, i want to try a few Tanks today, like Geb maybe. :)
mostly because they piss me off when i meet them as enemies and i think to myself ... it's payback time ^^

No you usually can't counter all the guardians CC's especially if the guardian has multiple ones, as . Healing can be good but it is the easiest thing to counter in the game. Plus your healing is dependent of % scaling from your magical power, which you will be lacking in a more supportive build.

Also in duo lane, it's not "hit hard" the point, it's hit in the right moments, so you can get a kill. If you are hitting like a truck they can easily stay under the tower and wait for the enemy JG gank. Since you don't have Base HP, lacks mana sustain and don't have a escape, you are an easy target, especailly for early game jgs with suprise elements/a lot of CCs as and .

If you are going to play geb, don't make these common mistakes:

Hold too much your ulti
Shield yourself instead ADC
Blink Rune as first relic
Stay behind the ADC while people are raping him
Tower dives alone to secure kills that is questionable how easy is to get the kill

Remember that is a more passive support and his shield CAN remove CC effects from your teammates ;)

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yeah that was okay. I also tried Ares and i think that's a little bit more fun.
I can play Hel in Mid (and even Solo) so it's okay to take a Guardian.

i have yet to learn to place myself infront of the ADC properly and know the correct timing when to roam. That's not easy. ^^

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Further to Myst's comment, your last comment...like the Geb pissing you off when you meet them as enemies...this is an exact answer to why can struggle in the Support role. The lack of CC means they often can dictate play, and you have to be reactive. And her anti-CC ability can be difficult to use well, as you only have it in one of the two stances, and has a somewhat small AOE.

You also say you hit harder than any tank could dream of. If you're building in the manner of a Support, you're actually going to itemize differently than if you were to play as Mid, for example, and you're not going to be hitting all that hard. You're going to focus more on some protections and utility. Instead of picking up for CDR, you might go with , , , etc. Instead of getting full offense items like , you'll consider tank or bruiser/utility items here and there...Lotus Crown, . You're also likely to spec much less into things like penetration. And that means you're not going to be hitting all that hard.

And if you do choose to build like more of a normal mage, then it's likely you're going to get hard focused by the Support, and ganked/camped by the Jungler, etc...at least against decent competition.

Also, hitting harder than any tank can dream of..., , and say hi.

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Also, hitting harder than any tank can dream of....

Cabroken really hurts XD

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Cabroken really hurts XD

Is he really broken though? I mean building him as asasin, sure. As tank though? I am lvl10 w/ him but wouldn't dare take him to support role... Enemy wins the lane. Solo? Never tried.

I'd love to play him in either role if anyone got tips :P

Also, Nike... fun to play in any role. Annoying as fk. Haha.

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He’s not broken, he just gets called Cabroken.

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i mean i get it. And anyway, i wanna learn at least 1 God of every "Class". Or more. I think this also helps to learn about their abilitys and the whole lot of Items available.

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i mean i get it. And anyway, i wanna learn at least 1 God of every "Class". Or more. I think this also helps to learn about their abilitys and the whole lot of Items available.

So I recommend you start with easy gods of each role:
- hunter
- mage
- assassin
- guardian
- warrior

All of them are easy to play ;)

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hehe, for some classes i already have a few "safe Gods" where i feel comfy. (hel, odin, nike, ares, medusa) yet i will try those too a little bit.
it's funny. Gods some consider to be easy, i just can't, while i really feel good with Hel wich is considered hard.
But anyway, the way i see it: the more Gods i try out and train, the better i know them and it will be easyier to counter them.

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Still feeling like I suck as a solo laner. Is it cause I am not counter building right or my God just ?

Xing vs Herc The enemy was 4man team but pretty sure I could do something better.

Xing vs Ra, Against same 4man, lol. Maybe buying Warlock's over Divine/void was problem? Lane was tied so I thought could stack it cause bruiser build.

Also in neither games did they get Tele relic.

Part off problem was all lane lost and they finally group rotated to dive me and take tower. However, IMO if I won the lane I could have avoided that.

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