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Arena Manticore + Bakasura

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » January 21, 2014 8:05am | Report
lol BAKA!..fix it pls
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » January 21, 2014 8:15am | Report
I'm fine with that... with Baka being able to devour a minion. But I think he could only devour the Manticore when it is at low health...

This is game breaking!
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » January 21, 2014 2:34pm | Report
Thiel wrote:

The problem isn't so much the potential 10 ticket loss though - well it is. But it's the by-product that makes Bakasura's ability broken. The Manticore can take up to 10 seconds to kill, that's 10 seconds full focus from your entire team. This is basically an invitation for the other team to initiate. Bakasura destroys this extra layer in Arena.

It basically makes Bakasura a necessity.


No he's not. I guarantee you, even in league arena, Bakasura will be a rarity. Simply because bringing a basic attack-reliant assassin with low mobility to arena is a liability. Bakasura requires tight spaces and surprise to be useful, neither of which are afforded in arena. He also has no CC, is completely countered by CC, no initiate, and tends to trade more often at higher levels because he's so squishy. There are just much better god choices than Baka, even if he can eat a manticore. Because in the grand scheme of things, the manticore isn't that important. Bring a Mercury instead.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Thiel » January 21, 2014 3:59pm | Report
Ghraf wrote:



No he's not. I guarantee you, even in league arena, Bakasura will be a rarity. Simply because bringing a basic attack-reliant assassin with low mobility to arena is a liability. Bakasura requires tight spaces and surprise to be useful, neither of which are afforded in arena. He also has no CC, is completely countered by CC, no initiate, and tends to trade more often at higher levels because he's so squishy. There are just much better god choices than Baka, even if he can eat a manticore. Because in the grand scheme of things, the manticore isn't that important. Bring a Mercury instead.



I stand corrected, good sir.

I've heard that Bart mentioned that he can now only devour it at -20% health, similar to buff camps. I wonder if they'll add a health bar to the Manticore that aid that extent though.
EDIT: Never mind, seems like they removed the possibility entirely.
That's just my 2 cents.






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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » January 21, 2014 6:47pm | Report
Thiel wrote:




I stand corrected, good sir.

I've heard that Bart mentioned that he can now only devour it at -20% health, similar to buff camps. I wonder if they'll add a health bar to the Manticore that aid that extent though.
EDIT: Never mind, seems like they removed the possibility entirely.


Doesn't make that much of a difference anyways. Most gods can burn it down pretty fast. Like the aforementioned Mercury, with a decent build, takes ~4-5 seconds to kill it at most.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » January 21, 2014 8:17pm | Report
True enough, but the first 10 kills in a game, it's very very hard to kill unless the enemy team just lets you funnel the basic attacks into it, which staggers it backwards. Usually, however, they don't, and the first couple manticores are hard. Late game arena, where you're down to around 200 tickets, one person can practically solo it, especially an auto attack-reliant assassin or adc (Artemis, Xbalanque (with bola), Apollo, Bakasura, Mercury, Ne Zha, etc). But early game, that swallow is a nice little trick.

Luckily it's not available anymore. I never thought it was stupidly overpowered, but it WAS a tad bit of an unfair advantage at the time.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HolyPudding » January 23, 2014 2:08pm | Report
Good friends, it has indeed been fixed.
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