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Math does indeed win games, as long as both players are equally good and has no crit chance you can easily calculate out who would win and how to counter the enemy.

For Kali to counter Thor he'd have to go all in on you, meaning that he would have to initiate with his ultimate and then use his 1 before you use your combo, as he'd otherwise outtrade you when it comes to his 3 and your 2. You can however use your 3 to your advantage if you're near a jungle camp or minion wave to heal yourself up, which would give you around 595 health, which is about 150 health more than what Thor's 3 does in damage even with 3 stacks from The Executioner, math below.

185.61 / (((327 - 40) - 327 * 0.21) / 100 + 1) = 89.23 * 5 = 446.17 true damage.

If Thor had done this calculation, he would have known that he should always save his 1 or ultimate for whenever you use your ult as that is your strongest source of damage, and without it you would be weaker than him.

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Broski, its simply thor can damage to kali easier, it doesn't mean he does more damage it just means he can deal it easier on her beacuse SHE IS SHORT RANGE so he has the advantage.
It has nothing to do with being OP even if he is strong.

Reason why : Because He just simply do things she can't do.

Its like putting Anhur up against XBL then saying XBL op because he did more damage in a match.
Well it depends, XBL can spam his AOES and get EASIER DAMAGE. That doesn't make him op though.
Anhur would have a harder time dealing damage than XBL simply because its harder and he works different.

Its like putting POS up against RA.
Pos can simply whirl pool safely while RA has no real move that does that damage while keeping them in the damage.

What I'm saying is THOR CAN DO MORE THAN KALI. COUnter picks don't make someone OP, its just a counter.

I don't even have to test this out to know why thor may win.

#1 He has a stun which is long range
#2 He has a throw which is long range, does damage and can telaport
#3 His 3 does alot of damage and he can telaport with his hammer into you or get away.
#4 his ult can chase or get away.

Kali is all close range besides her 2 and she has no CC like thor.

ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE WHY THOR CAN DISH OUT MORE DAMAGE EASIER.

Its not that he does more damage then others, he simply can DEAL SAFE DAMAGE meaning other gods have to work for damage to deal theirs.

Like I said XBL can spam his 2+3 because its EASY which is obviously going to say his damage is more than other gods simply because he can spam it and it has big range.

It doesn't mean he is any better than anhur it just means he can spam it more and deal damage easier so OF COURSE he might have more damage at the end game simply because it hits all gods in the AOE.

The fact about smite is
#1 there are counter picks
and #2 there are different ways to use gods and conquest is what the game is based on.

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STATS MEAN NOTHING

My Anhur can have 11-0 stats but LESS OVERALL DAMAGE DONE

while my team mate has 5-0 and has MORE DAMAGE DONE

All damage means is that you did more damage, it doesn't mean you killed anyone, it doesn't mean you won the game, ect.

Simply put, when my Anhur has lower damage all it means is ALL MY DAMAGE WAS FOCUSED AND I GOT KILLS FROM THAT LITTLE DAMAGE.

Simply put, Sometimes PEOPLE DO MASSIVE DAMAGE BUT NEVER GET THE KILLS.

Damage is simply damage, some gods deal it easier and some gods like ANHUR DEAL BURST which means overall you will have less damage but the damage you delt kills them off even if the end game stats said you did lower damage THE WHOLE GAME.

ITS KNOWING WHEN TO USE YOUR DAMAGE, ANYONE CAN GET HIGH DAMAGE

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Anhur vs Xba it's a ****ed up example, i could destroy an xba any day with anhur. Also, would someone count the Thanatos match too ?! It seems like you're only taking in consideration the Kali one, and I admit that Kali is one of the worst assassins out there. And wtf is all that **** about damage, like I've never played Smite before and I don't know those things; I only attached the damage stats for proof.

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you didn't get his point. he ment that xbal can damage anhur more easly because of his kit. i can destroy an anhur with my xbal anyday to. does that mean that xbal is op? no it doesn't.

vise versa with you being able to defeat xbal with anhur.

thatatos is way to new and incerdily complicated meaning that a test like this is not trust worthy.

thatatos damages him self and heals trough kills aka he ain't gonna win a battle if he can't kill minions. that he can't heal up if is being damaged.

look the testing you did has been proven to be flauwed. that is a good thing.
because now we have more facts.

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You don't understand either. Today I've tried more gods, including Anhur, Loki, Fenrir, Apollo, He bo, Anubis; none of them can withstand Thor's damage, which is imho completely ******ed, since this time he didn't take a single bruiser item. Again, his base skill damage is too high imo.

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None of them can withstand his damage because they're all squishies. He's obviously going to deal tons of damage to them.

That said, they can deal huge damage too. Anubis, for instance, can easily outdamage Thor any day of the week. + + has a much higher damage potential than any Thor combo. He has better clear too. He Bo's Flood Waters + + + should also beat Thor's damage quite handily.

It seems to me that your problem has more to do with you finding it tough to play against Thor than that he is genuinely OP. He's very good, no doubt, but in a 1v1 he shouldn't be as dominant as you're making him out to be.

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Of course they can out damage him, hell, he bo and anubis are the highest burst damage gods in the game. The fact is, that Thor can still keep up with their damage while building bruiser or tank, plus having 2 escapes and a stun. And no, I have no problems whatsoever in fighting against Thor.

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No, he can't. I have played Anubis vs Thor several times and I have never met one that could match my damage. Those that did well did so by baiting out my damage and attack me while my stuff was on cooldown. Even if he does build tanky a simple and perhaps one more pen item will still cut through him nice and easy.

If you want to make the point that Thor is as strong as you say I'm going to have to request a vid or a convincing calculation. All my current experience points to Thor dealing less damage than Anubis and He Bo. Less experienced with Anhur, Loki and Fen against him, but at least Anhur should logically not have too much trouble winning that fight if he can make a good job of landing his shots.

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someone actively wants to pick Kali? Why?

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