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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BrotherMonkey » October 23, 2013 7:33pm | Report
Kripox wrote:

Ares' skillset is themed pretty heavily around the chains used to bind his statues and general rule of cool.

As for Athena, I guess they figured that out of all the roles in the game, tank (which, mind you, is just as much about CC and support as actual tanking) was a better fit than assassin, warrior or mage.

Yeah, but she was a Mage
Arachne -
She also had, Head of Gorgon on her shield
she could shapeshift, fly

There are so many possibilities for her in Moba game as Mage, but somehow they decided to make Goddess of Wisdom a Tank ? Why ?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BrotherMonkey » October 23, 2013 7:35pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Ok, there are MANY versions of Tyr, most which spawned during the Migration Age around 400-800 AD. This is where Tyr fell out of favor. And the most common three, are the Son of Odin, the son of Hymir, and one as equivilent to Tuisto, derived from Dyaus, the head diety in Western/Northwestern Europe.

And as I said, Athena is the other Goddess of War, alongside Ares. Ares embodies 'Ferocious War', Athena embodies 'Glorious War'. And finally, as I have said, Athena has actively participated in many battles past simple planning, since she commonly has to quest against Ares, since he is, in general, vastly opposed to most of the actions of the gods ruling Mount Olympus.
And Ares fights with chains because every statue of Ares must be bound in chains, lest the god embody himself in the statue and manifest himself. You do not pray for Ares favor, you pray that Ares does not show himself. You fear ares, not respect him. The only culture to have actively revered Ares were the Spartans, who were still the ones to start the tradition of enveloping the statues in chains, because Ares brought pestilence and war wherever he went. This also idealizes they 'trap by chains' the spirit of Ares as the God of War in their city, that THEY SPECIIFCALLY own the fighting spirit.

Here's a passage from Pausinius (You may know him from the Symposium) in reference to Ares (Called Enyalius, a secondary name of the Mycenaean)
Opposite this temple [the temple of Hipposthenes] is an old image of Enyalius in fetters. The idea the Lacedaemonians express by this image is the same as the Athenians express by their Wingless Victory; the former think that Enyalius will never run away from them, being bound in the fetters, while the Athenians think that Victory, having no wings, will always remain where she is." Pausanias, 3.15.7.

Again, I hope I've cleared this up. I'm not really here to argue, but to provide evidence, since that's solely what you're asking for. If you wanted a debate I'd have not gotten involved, but you asked for an explanation - here it is.

Actually i enjoyed reading your posts, but it does not explain anything about their roles in smite really.

Her being goddess of war is not reason for making her punching bag.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » October 23, 2013 7:37pm | Report
I dunno how else to explain how she's the God of War and actively fought with a spear and shield IN MYTHOLOGY.

Even if you think she should be a mage, we NEEDED tanks, and we had SO many mages. Just look at how many there are. 8 Tanks (discounting Guan Yu and Vamana as bruisers), but 14 Mages. They needed tanks, and Athena wasn't in the game, and was able lore-wise to fit what they needed.

Anyway, I guess that's why they'd do it. I can see why you'd want her as a mage, but I understand why she is what she is.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BrotherMonkey » October 23, 2013 7:42pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

I dunno how else to explain how she's the God of War and actively fought with a spear and shield IN MYTHOLOGY.

Even if you think she should be a mage, we NEEDED tanks, and we had SO many mages. Just look at how many there are. 8 Tanks (discounting Guan Yu and Vamana as bruisers), but 14 Mages. They needed tanks, and Athena wasn't in the game, and was able lore-wise to fit what they needed.

I agree with you, but why cant they make tanks out of Gods who where literally invulnerable to harm ?
Balder, Wukong, Wuneng, Achilleus(not really a god, but neither is Arachne) and there are many others.
Athenas current skills would look way better on Achilleus for example.
I mean Wukong was literally a guardian of Sanzang whole journey and he even gave free shots at his Head to strongest of the Demons and Gods and no one was able to harm him, but they made assassin out of him and then changed to warrior come on now.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kripox » October 23, 2013 8:17pm | Report
To be fair, Wukong was also crazy strong, fast and deadly. He's one of those gods you could make into almost anything you want.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » October 23, 2013 10:57pm | Report
Oh love this post. Raven giving some Mythology incite!
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