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Oh thank god, I'm glad I'm not the only one who though her second skill is op as fuuu- but I did play her on my friends CPU and I have to say, if you want to have a casual match, she's a really good choice.

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ya the first time I played with her, ares ulted me and I used my 2 to get out and not only that but it negates damage from his ult! Sweet I bet that ares is pissed that not only can I use my 2 but I can then buy aegis or beads to 110% make sure I can never get ulted LOL!!!

That 2 is just too smexy, its so good that when zues puts 3 lighting bolts on you all you have to do is 2 your way out of getting hit by all that damage.

Poor zues.

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I find Zeus is one of the hardest counters to her. He can keep her slowed with Gem of Binding, reducing the effectiveness of her passive. He can still stack charges during her waltz, and they last far longer than the duration of her dance; all he has to do is wait for her waltz to be over, and then detonate. She has to be close to her teammates to heal them, and that's the perfect opportunity for chain lightning.

Odin is also a had counter, because she can't escape his ring. Put them together and she's pretty much ****ed.

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I just wish her 2 was instant cast.

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I just wish her 2 was instant cast.

It already activates the moment you cast it.

Or do you mean it had no duration? Because that would be the most useless skill ever.

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It already activates the moment you cast it.

Or do you mean it had no duration? Because that would be the most useless skill ever.

No it doesn't; it takes about a quarter second to go off. Annoying if you're trying to instant activate it when a loki jumps you or such. But I don't mind.

And for the statement that zeus/odin counters her, I disagree. His shield is useless (she's not an autoattack champion) and with chronos's pendant/breastplate of valor her CDR is high enough to spam 1. Her passive makes it easy to dodge zeus's skillshot and autoattacks, while zeus's speed cannot dodge anything. She also has enough healing to practically ignore what he's doing. And as far as odin goes, sure she can't get out of the ring, but I've been trapped in there and killed the odin multiple times. Just kite him around the outside with your heals, juke past him, and heal yourself - he's really not that scary.

Then again, I'm playing full mage Chang'e - magi penetration boots, pendant, breastplate of valor, rod of tahuti, bancroft's, and gem of iso...so I might be doing a tad more healing/damage than what most people are building.

I find the best supports are the ones who can hold their own themselves, and heal for a ton. That's why aphro builds a lot of magic power - to heal for a lot. It's also why I favor glass cannon ra over tank ra.

All in all, if she's inside her group, her heal is stupidly high, and will ruin any assault team unlucky enough to face her. I recently faced (I kid you not) a ra/guan/hel/aphro/chang'e group. If you think building magic protection was enough to win, I assure you it wasn't, considering I saw ra go from 10% health to full in a half second.

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No it doesn't; it takes about a quarter second to go off. Annoying if you're trying to instant activate it when a loki jumps you or such. But I don't mind.

Hm, I personally have never noticed it because I tend to use it preemptively.

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And for the statement that zeus/odin counters her, I disagree. His shield is useless[ (she's not an autoattack champion)

His shield provides a great deal of movement speed, and it will outshine her passive when activated.

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and with chronos's pendant/breastplate of valor her CDR is high enough to spam 1. Her passive makes it easy to dodge zeus's skillshot and autoattacks, while zeus's speed cannot dodge anything. She also has enough healing to practically ignore what he's doing.

She has to be close to her teammates in order to heal them, and they won't have the same high mobility she does; Zeus's skillshot will chain from them to you, not the other way around.

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And as far as odin goes, sure she can't get out of the ring, but I've been trapped in there and killed the odin multiple times. Just kite him around the outside with your heals, juke past him, and heal yourself - he's really not that scary.

I'm sorry, I meant to state in teamfights. He's no threat 1v1 but if you're trapped in his circle with his team there, your only hope is going to be using twice via the CDR from purification beads. Even then, if they have a Zeus he will be back to stack his passive through your immunity.

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Then again, I'm playing full mage Chang'e - magi penetration boots, pendant, breastplate of valor, rod of tahuti, bancroft's, and gem of iso...so I might be doing a tad more healing/damage than what most people are building.

Personally I build her max CDR and defense + gem of isolation. Her heal heals a significant amount if you include multiple teammates in it regardless of her MP.

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I find the best supports are the ones who can hold their own themselves, and heal for a ton. That's why aphro builds a lot of magic power - to heal for a lot. It's also why I favor glass cannon ra over tank ra.

Due to her and high mobility, she can be argued to be built best as either mage or defense. In one hand, she will be able to avoid a lot of attacks and have a higher damage harass. In the other hand, she will be able to body block hits for her team and, while her harass damage would be lower, her actually harassment will increase.

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All in all, if she's inside her group, her heal is stupidly high, and will ruin any assault team unlucky enough to face her. I recently faced (I kid you not) a ra/guan/hel/aphro/chang'e group. If you think building magic protection was enough to win, I assure you it wasn't, considering I saw ra go from 10% health to full in a half second.

My condolences, lol.

Sorry that my reply is so short, I had a much better one but the internet killed it and I forgot to copy it like I usually do. I'm so pissed right now -_-

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I mean like as soon as you press it, it activates. You don't need to wait for you to click, just it goes automatically.

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I mean like as soon as you press it, it activates. You don't need to wait for you to click, just it goes automatically.

You could always switch to instant casting, but considering there is nothing to aim I agree that there's no reason to require a click.

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It actually aim which ally to earn mana :P

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