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Forum » General Discussion » Hydra's Lament f*cking sucks! 24 posts - page 3 of 3
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 19, 2013 9:41am | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Why build Loki attack speed? You build Hydra's because he needs to kill something in a 3 second window and gtfo, not stand and have ridiculous sustain damage.

As for the 82 damage, of course I thought it was low, hence why you were assumed wrong. You *have* to say you're accounting for physical protection, because that adds PP and Physical Penetration to the weighing factors.

Second, why only go for executioner or only go for Hydra's? Do both.


the probleme i have with hydra's lement is that it is what Demonic Grip used to be on freya inb4 magic aa's.

a very god spesific item. it is litterly a loki item but even on him it's not that great since his swing chain.

there are 2 meta's for loki builds. the old meta that existce based on jottun's and hydra's and the new meta which is my prefrence which constists out of building on hit applying effect items like executioner, bloodforge, possibly qin's blades, frostbound hammer and some like golden bow.

the second meta works because of his swing chain. some people do it in 1 more different way which is combining the meta's my getting either jottun's or hydra's mixed in with the on hit build.

i don't like the first meta because he has a way harder time actually fighting.

but my biggest probleme with it on loki is that people don't loki like this. *pop ult, hydra 1, pop 3 hydra 2, pop 2, hydra 3, pop 1 and run.

on loki you will never be able to get the full potential of hydra's because you insta pop everything always other whise he/she escape's. if you actually try to use it to it's full power on loki he will escape because again he/she is not slowed and trying to activate everything after every basic takes to long because of loki's animations.

here is what it would do on every single pysical god if it would be used on with a 50 damage debuff on your god and on a target without any protection and not taking passive protection or pen in acount and all at level 20.

anhur 90
apollo 86
arachne 82
artemis 76
bakasura ?
bastet 81
cupid 81
fenrir 84
guan yu 82
hercules 84
hun batz 81
kali 83
loki 86
mercury 90
nezha 83
neith 81
odin 83
thanatos 83
thor 87
tyr ?
vamana ?
xbalanque 87

that at level 20 is not a big number.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kripox » October 22, 2013 2:39pm | Report
This thing got buffed hard. You can now get either 175% base instead of 125%, or you can get 50% or your total power.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Piederman » October 22, 2013 3:19pm | Report
Kripox wrote:

This thing got buffed hard. You can now get either 175% base instead of 125%, or you can get 50% or your total power.

It's not 50% of your total physical power. What Hydra's Demise will do is after you've used an ability is that it will make your next basic attack that you land within 5 seconds to deal an additional damage equal to 50% of your physical power from buffs and items, not from base value that you have at level 1 or recieve from leveling up.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kripox » October 22, 2013 3:22pm | Report
Piederman wrote:


It's not 50% of your total physical power. What Hydra's Demise will do is after you've used an ability is that it will make your next basic attack that you land within 5 seconds to deal an additional damage equal to 50% of your physical power from buffs and items, not from base value that you have at level 1 or recieve from leveling up.


Misread that then. A shame. Well, I suppose Loki got buffed enough in any case, this patch is rather good news for him it would seem.

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