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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » September 19, 2013 10:58am | Report
Well skills that move an opponent are good to have on a jungler like Herucles and Tyr. Both of the can MOVE an opponent from behind although hercules has his 2 for a fling also.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by UnknownPandr » September 19, 2013 11:17am | Report
A big part of a jungler is AoE's and how much cc they have, it all about how well they shut down the lane there ganking.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pulimuli » September 19, 2013 12:08pm | Report
Athena is a GOOD jungler, she has pretty fast creep clear time and her ganks are to be feared

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » September 19, 2013 1:51pm | Report
I'll just put this bit here to confirm:

Athena is an awesome jungler.

Now, a bit of news. I tried jungling as Artemis*, and it was...weird. I didn't do great, but I didn't do horribly, either. I'm mainly convinced that the problem is with my build and strategy. If anyone has tips to jungling as Art, I'd appreciate it.

*Please don't say OMGWTFBBQARTEMISJUNGLERFAIL. Please give reasons why Art is a bad jungler.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zerosaviour » September 19, 2013 6:45pm | Report
Apollo once he hits lvl 5 is actually very good at clearing jungles.

Ao is quite nice too due to his whirlwind.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » September 19, 2013 11:17pm | Report
Update: Artemis can jungle. It's really freaking hard, but she can jungle. (2/3 matches won)

Alright, so the consensus seems to be that some form of CC is necessary to secure ganks, which is vital for a jungler.

Wait a second! Almost all gods have either CC, high clear speed, or both. Some great junglers don't even have much CC, yet they're good at it anyway, like Bakasura. Some lack area attacks and still make good junglers, like Loki. And some have ****py clear speeds, like Artemis, and can jungle anyway.

One conclusion remains: All gods can jungle. O_O

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kripox » September 20, 2013 12:26am | Report
No, they can't. Try Bacchus. Absolutely horrendous clear time for too long into the game. He is simply not good at it.

The standard junglers that one can see getting picked for jungle all the time enjoy this popularity for a reason, they are proven to be efficient at the job. They have a balance between clear speed, mobility, ganking prowess and overall presence that just works well. Most gods, while they can jungle if they really want to, are either lacking in comparison or might be more valuable in a different role.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » September 20, 2013 10:13am | Report
Update: Bacchus cannot jungle. Dammit.

Kripox, I am still in disagreement with your statement. I argue that the qualities that make some gods good in the lane/mid, also make them great junglers. For example, Ao Kuang's great at pushing, and his ultimate is devastating with team coordination. I am willing to bet that he would make a good jungler with the right technique and build, since he will clear just as fast as the best junglers, has good mobility with his Slither, which is mostly unused in lane*, and with the right team comp. his ganks will be devastating.

And on a purely hypothetical basis**, I think Hades would also make a decent jungler, since he has multiple area attacks, a teleport, and bucketloads of CC.

*I think there are a lot of abilities which are oddly effective in the jungle. For example, Artemis gets a worthless speed buff in lane with her two, but it is quite effective when used uninterrupted, like in the jungle.

**Haven't got to the H's yet.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » September 20, 2013 10:33am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Update: Bacchus cannot jungle. Dammit.

Kripox, I am still in disagreement with your statement. I argue that the qualities that make some gods good in the lane/mid, also make them great junglers. For example, Ao Kuang's great at pushing, and his ultimate is devastating with team coordination. I am willing to bet that he would make a good jungler with the right technique and build, since he will clear just as fast as the best junglers, has good mobility with his Slither, which is mostly unused in lane*, and with the right team comp. his ganks will be devastating.

And on a purely hypothetical basis**, I think Hades would also make a decent jungler, since he has multiple area attacks, a teleport, and bucketloads of CC.

*I think there are a lot of abilities which are oddly effective in the jungle. For example, Artemis gets a worthless speed buff in lane with her two, but it is quite effective when used uninterrupted, like in the jungle.

**Haven't got to the H's yet.

actually hades is a horrid jungler. he has way to long cooldowns making his clear to slow.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zerosaviour » September 20, 2013 6:56pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Update: Bacchus cannot jungle. Dammit.

Kripox, I am still in disagreement with your statement. I argue that the qualities that make some gods good in the lane/mid, also make them great junglers. For example, Ao Kuang's great at pushing, and his ultimate is devastating with team coordination. I am willing to bet that he would make a good jungler with the right technique and build, since he will clear just as fast as the best junglers, has good mobility with his Slither, which is mostly unused in lane*, and with the right team comp. his ganks will be devastating.

And on a purely hypothetical basis**, I think Hades would also make a decent jungler, since he has multiple area attacks, a teleport, and bucketloads of CC.

*I think there are a lot of abilities which are oddly effective in the jungle. For example, Artemis gets a worthless speed buff in lane with her two, but it is quite effective when used uninterrupted, like in the jungle.

**Haven't got to the H's yet.


For Ao, open up with your 3 and then use 1. On average, most jungle mobs will be dead with just a few auto attacks.

Also about Bakasura, what makes him an amazing jungler is that his steroid is insanely powerful and of course Eat Minion. It automatically kills a non buff minion. He also has the most substain out of any jungler.

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