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Forum » General Discussion » Nemesis is still a joke... 9 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SupaAPE » February 11, 2014 5:16pm | Report
even after all these nerfs, this hero is just ridiculous..i don't get it really? this warrior does so much damage without even needing items...it makes other warriors besides guan yu (which I find great and well balanced as a healer/warrior) look bad, like real bad. Sun Wukong is a pansy compared to nemesis, there is no competition. Nemesis does so much damage it makes assasins early game look gimp.

Terrible balancing...who balanced that LOL??

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by M4XiiMUS » February 11, 2014 6:01pm | Report
I feel her cone is way too easy. They need to decrease the width of her Slice and Dice. And make her Retribution reduce damage rather than heal her.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ant1FascistMilitant » February 11, 2014 11:47pm | Report
Make her 4 whiffable, the character is brain dead as hell. And the fact that people tend to gravitate towards such characters isn't really helping...

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by asianslikepie » February 12, 2014 1:54am | Report
Nemesis + aphrodite= gg

I tried fighting this combo don't bother surrender at 10

Single most powerful heal in the game, additional speed buff on top of speed debuffs (try to run away now sucka), ability to reflect damage (pretty much immunity) as well as short term total immunity, one sec stun and the ult of r@pe tranfomrs nemeisis into a tank that can run at the speed of light.

So incredibly balanced Hi-Rez...... I have a question could you do less?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by asianslikepie » February 12, 2014 2:18am | Report
I actaully have a suggestion. Change her ult to actually reflect her lore. She's NEMESIS GODDESS OF BALANCE not goddess of "hurr hurr i press 4 and click, oh now you screwed".

Suggestion:(Buff duration: 5/5/5/5/5 Debuff duration 5/5/5/5/5)
Nemesis gains:
15/20/25/30/35% of current HP (-15% to all levels)
Reasoning: It's just supposed to help you kill the target not be a wonder weapon i actually might consider going -20% the ability to increase amount proc on qin's sais is ridiculous
20/25/30/35/40% of movement speed for 5s (-10%)
Reasoning: 2 dashes fast enough
A set protection steal
20/25/30/35/40
Reasoning: Tanks have nothing else then to be meatshields for their teams. Let them continue to do so. Nemesis gets a damage reflect she doesn't need to rob the whole bank. Gods in other roles are still just as vulnerable. Set rate v.s percentage if they weren't building defense to begin with, true damage is still dealt.

In addition some new effects: Nemesis chooses a god and gains the above effects for 5 seconds. If Nemesis kills the enemy god the buff duration is extended for an additional 5 seconds. However if neither god is dead by the end of the duration the buff transfers, and Nemesis gains the debuff for 5 seconds.

Reasoning: Better fits the lore. Nemesis is the goddess of balance wouldn't make much sense for her ult to be a one sided affair. Important to note that the secondary transfer effect only triggers if neither god is dead. If Nemesis dies during the duration the enemy god does not get the buff the debuff runs the remaining duration and that's it. Forces Nemesis to be selective: steal the tanks protection and speed, so they can't interfere? and get out before debuff triggers. or go all in debuff the softest player and try to overrun their line despite reduced stat gain?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Fzkk » February 12, 2014 6:23am | Report
Yes man,i feel you. Having nemesis on enemy team every single game makes me want to surrender every game at 10th minute.The thing is that she is so easy to play,very high damage from lvl 1,dont need many items to do dmg,in 1v1 theres very little chance you will lose and the tankiness. She has x2 dash to get away,she has 1sec immunity shield,she has slow,heal and stun.
Smite dont you think you gave too many abilities to one god?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » February 12, 2014 7:39am | Report
I think she is good as she is now (at least from my maybe 10 games with/against her) after the nerf. She still does quite a lot of damage, but it not stupid like Geb :P

The shield can be strong as **** if you are against a good Nemesis though, I managed to shield a Ao Kuang ult and some other stuff at like 5% health and went back to 100% heath and got a double kill xD (maybe add a heal cap or, just remove the heal?)

And to counter Nemesis all you have to do is get sprint witch is a great active overall on all gods basically (except support ofc). Or if you want to be silly get winged wand. Then all she got left is mediocre damage, an ult that can burst you for like 40% health if you are at full health and a OP passive though.

So my suggestion would be:
Do something with the heal on Retribution.
Make Scales of Fate not use %, make it a set number (5 maybe) + x per lvl or something.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SupaAPE » February 12, 2014 11:09am | Report
Fzkk wrote:

Yes man,i feel you. Having nemesis on enemy team every single game makes me want to surrender every game at 10th minute.The thing is that she is so easy to play,very high damage from lvl 1,dont need many items to do dmg,in 1v1 theres very little chance you will lose and the tankiness. She has x2 dash to get away,she has 1sec immunity shield,she has slow,heal and stun.
Smite dont you think you gave too many abilities to one god?


I know...don't think any other assasin/jungler can fight her toe to toe in jungle at all, especially early game. Too tanky, too much damage, too much mobility.

I am totally for high skill cap heroes, infact i wish they would start adding some, but nemesis is a joke that is far 2 ez to play and accumulate kills with.

GG

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ant1FascistMilitant » February 12, 2014 5:55pm | Report
Sprint/Winged Wand is a pretty good counter against her, have you people actually tried it? Its still a good chance she will be able to catch up with you afterwords but still better than nothing.

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