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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by _angrytoast » April 3, 2015 6:20pm | Report
Hey everyone! I recently found this neat little site that allows you to create your own tier list in an aesthetically pleasing manor. Please tell me what you think, I would be happy to have a discussion on this.

ORIGINAL: http://www.smitetierlist.com/?list=695515

UPDATED: http://www.smitetierlist.com/?list=695536

UPDATED (AGAIN): http://www.smitetierlist.com/?list=695652

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Arvorus » April 3, 2015 9:00pm | Report
I personally think that Scylla should be moved down a notch. The early game is very important in Smite, and other mid laners have an almost as good late game as hers. Apollo should be moved down, as well. His early game is not the best, his steroid is unreliable, and his ultimate can't disrupt team fights as much as it used to. Maybe move Scylla to B+ and Apollo to B?

Thanatos could be moved up to an A or B. His invade potential is amazing, and he has one of the best early games in Smite. I might be biased here, however! Thor is nasty with his global ultimate and 90% scaling hammer, and he should be moved up to the S+ tier.

Other than that, I like the tierlist! I'm not sure if Bellona deserves to be placed next to Athena. She probably does, but I haven't played against her enough to know anything.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » April 4, 2015 3:22am | Report
Arvorus wrote:

Thanatos could be moved up to an A or B. His invade potential is amazing, and he has one of the best early games in Smite.


Yes and that's the only thing Thanatos has if he has a bad early game you can't do anything with him in late game. So if he gets a bit counterjungled or get killed somewhere at the start because his scithe got juked etc. then he is worth nothing anymore.

Also he does fall of hard in late game. Making other junglers better over him even if the don't have that well of an early game.

I do agree about him getting moved up but only to B

Also toast IMO you didn't look that well at roles because Thor is still 1st pick/ban material. Have a good Thor in the jungle and he will spintowin your team to death. And Zeus can be really strong if played right (and that's the hard part not everybody can play zeus right).

I'm also going to say this but IMO neith is ranked way to low.

neith has a lot better wave clear then apollo (her arrow in combination with a weave is more damage then apollo's and she only has a reduction of 25% after the first enemy and apollo 15% for each enemy hit. also higher base damage (with the same scalings) and she also has the global presence with her ult just like apollo. she has a good escape bit worse then apollo but she banishes herself when doing it (or I missed that they removed that parts).
But she has a better CC she has an AS reduction a stun and a root on long range vs apollo's slow and mes (and mes is the worst hard CC IMO because the first bit of damage stops it reduces the time) on short range.
Also note neiths healing which can be insane.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » April 4, 2015 5:08am | Report
Janus at an S minus... okay :D
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Setolino » April 4, 2015 5:33am | Report
Fixd it for you. Atleast this is kinda the tierlist I see in ranked. Little tip he bo ***** on belonna 10/10 and so does sobek against sylvanus
http://www.smitetierlist.com/?list=695535
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by _angrytoast » April 4, 2015 6:26am | Report
Arvorus wrote:
I personally think that Scylla should be moved down a notch. The early game is very important in Smite, and other mid laners have an almost as good late game as hers. Apollo should be moved down, as well. His early game is not the best, his steroid is unreliable, and his ultimate can't disrupt team fights as much as it used to. Maybe move Scylla to B+ and Apollo to B?

Thanatos could be moved up to an A or B. His invade potential is amazing, and he has one of the best early games in Smite. I might be biased here, however! Thor is nasty with his global ultimate and 90% scaling hammer, and he should be moved up to the S+ tier.

Other than that, I like the tierlist! I'm not sure if Bellona deserves to be placed next to Athena. She probably does, but I haven't played against her enough to know anything.


@Avorus

The amount of damage that Scylla brings to the table is game changing; even if it takes a while for her to come on line. I'm A Monster has the potential to clear whole teams during teams fights, that is a quality to valuable to place her in B tier.

Apollo should be in A tier because A) He still is an ADC with an attack speed steroid and therefore can output absurd amounts of damage B) The steroid allows him to split push well C) He has global presence.

I can understand why Thanatos could be in A... although you would have to have a specialized team comp around him in order for him to be effective (to avoid him falling off too hard).

Thor can still be shut down, and I don't believe he is S+ tier.

As Seto said, Bellona gets wrecked by mages in lane but has other qualities like the fact she can solo FG at level 18. So she remains in S tier.


Devampi wrote:
I'm also going to say this but IMO neith is ranked way to low.

neith has a lot better wave clear then apollo (her arrow in combination with a weave is more damage then apollo's and she only has a reduction of 25% after the first enemy and apollo 15% for each enemy hit. also higher base damage (with the same scalings) and she also has the global presence with her ult just like apollo. she has a good escape bit worse then apollo but she banishes herself when doing it (or I missed that they removed that parts).
But she has a better CC she has an AS reduction a stun and a root on long range vs apollo's slow and mes (and mes is the worst hard CC IMO because the first bit of damage stops it reduces the time) on short range.
Also note neiths healing which can be insane.


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Even though Neith can outclear some ADC's, she still does some of the lowest damage out of all of them because she lacks and AA steroid. Neither her global presence or heals can make up for this lack of damage.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Arvorus » April 4, 2015 9:24am | Report
_angrytoast wrote:
The amount of damage that Scylla brings to the table is game changing; even if it takes a while for her to come on line. I'm a Monster has the potential to clear whole teams during teams fights, that is a quality too valuable to place her in B tier.


True, I underestimated her mid-game damage. Poseidon seems a bit too underwhelming to be put next to her, now. Sure, he can destroy teams, but Scylla can, as well. He does have a strong early game, but his mid-late game isn't that good. A tier?

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Thor can still be shut down, and I don't believe he is S+ tier.


But...640 damage + 90% scaling at level nine! In addition, he has global presence, doesn't fall off as hard as other early game junglers thanks to his scaling and utility, and his passive gives him an extra 196 potential ability damage.

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Yes and that's the only thing Thanatos has if he has a bad early game you can't do anything with him in late game. So if he gets a bit counterjungled or get killed somewhere at the start because his scythe got juked etc. then he is worth nothing anymore.


Yeah, he's a very high-risk/high-reward god. However, if he doesn't miss his scythe, and he's the one who gets the kill, then expect him to snowball. Just like Zeus, he needs to be played properly to be good.



Also, I love Neith, but I think she should moved down from the A+ tier. Her damage is mediocre compared to other hunters, her ult isn't good in team fights, and her heal is bad in 1v1 situations. Her early game is strong, but she falls behind in the mid-late game, and while she does great against escape-less gods, that's more of a niche than anything.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zanestorm » April 4, 2015 10:37am | Report
Question - is this a tier list for every game mode or just conquest?

Of all of these it is perhaps most odd [to me] that Aphrodite is S rank yet Hel is B rank. Both are countered in the same way, both have good utilities aside from heal [knock back on aphro + stun, CC cleanse on Hel + more damage.] Was also abit shocked to see Chang'e at only A considering shes so good, but then Chang'e is my main so that's probably why I think that. :p

Aside from that I think it's a very solid list by and large, there isn't too much I'd be changing around. I'd probably be tempted to bump Janus, Apollo and Mercury, perhaps even Bacchus up to A rank and move Awilix down to B rank.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » April 4, 2015 10:37am | Report
A bunch of gods you placed outside of A tier I'm a bit skeptical on. Gods like Kali, Janus, Ymir, Neith, Guan Yu, AMC, Hou Yi, and even Mercury should pretty much all be respectively in A tier. Janus definitely doesn't deserve the A- treatment, I'd put him in S-. Explain why Ymir is S tier? Or AMC S-? Or.. Ares S-?

I'm not really fond of tier lists since they aren't accurate representations on what happens in-game but I'll have at it, here.

@Zanestorm I'd assume it's conquest only.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by LevasK » April 4, 2015 10:40am | Report
All your lists are invalid, as long as Bastet is not in the highest possible tier ^_^

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