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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 15, 2014 6:04am | Report
Now I must admit that I have not been paying attention much to any tournaments going on lately or what most people are playing in ranked/league so I am going on by what I seem to be hearing and what I know about Tyr already as he stands now.

Is Tyr a viable pick compared to the rest of the line up?
We have Hercules, Chaac, Osaris, ect, which is what most people seem to be playing from what I can tell in the warrior class although I see some of the other warriors once in a while mainly in normal though not in league.

Today I bought some gems and I was deciding what I wanted to buy, I didn't want to buy a skin on a god that I would get bored of so I thought you know what, I think I am going to buy Tyr's skin because even though I suck butt with him when I'm being lazy he seems like he has a play style I might enjoy if I feel like actually using him.

So I played about 7-9 matches mainly of conquest with Tyr right after I bought his skin.
I wanted to see how he actually stacks up to the competition when I am actually trying to play him instead of being lazy and not trying to play the game how is suppose to be played.
When I say lazy, I mean Tyr is not a god that I can just slack off with and do good with, I have to somewhat try if I want to play Tyr.

The Role that I was mainly playing Tyr as, was actually *Support*!
I played him jungle a few times but mostly I for some reason was using him as Support a lot.

- To my surprise he works quite well as support at least in the 7-9 games I played in a ROW.
In ever single one of those matches I did not lose my tower playing him as support.
Every single game I played Tyr with as support me and my partner won the lane.
Basically, early game Tyr can't support much under heavy push until a few levels later.
When you get to those levels with Tyr he works out quite well though with his sustain/CC.

This is what I have been hearing.

I have been hearing that many people feel that Tyr is under powered at the moment, I have herd some people say he does not heal enough, I have herd people say his damage on his 2 is not enough in guard stance, I have herd people say he is not as great now because his 3 in guard stance no longer knocks up, many people seem to think or feel he is under powered.

I personally think : That Tyr is not underpowered, I actually think he is probably more balanced if he was in fact nerfed in his healing ect. I actually think his heal is pretty good, it seems that people may be used to him before the nerfs when he could heal more so maybe most people are calling it a weak heal based on that, I'm not sure. I do know that when I use Tyr his heal is pretty nice and keeps me in the fight and I have no complains about it personally.

His passive - I think his passive is pretty strong, I know it got nerfed but his passive is still strong letting you escape most CC quicker than anyone else.

His Fearless(1) - I think this ability is actually strong as hell. I have herd some people saying it doesn't do much damage but actually it does quite a bit because it hits twice. The sheer CC and displacement it brings is super strong I think. Any ability that FORCES a god to move with no way to get out is a strong ability in my book. I simply think this is a strong ability for the CC and damage it deals.

His Power Cleave(2) - The main problem people complain about is both the damage and heal on this ability. I have herd people complain the heal is not enough and the damage is so bad you might as well just auto attack. I personally think this is a decent ability in attack stance and a very good ability in guard stance. Personally I think the heal is balanced and gives you enough sustain in lane. The damage is nothing to brag about but the displacement that this move brings is a plus when combo'ed with fearless to move enemies around. I don't have a problem with this ability, I think its fine.

His Change Stance - Not much to say about this other than this is what makes Tyr able to switch between abilities. It does have two passives one stance increasing power and the other increasing defense. Again I think this is fine, switching to attack and having more power or switching to defense to gain protections and heal up is perfectly fine to me, it goes on cooldown unlike Ullr.

His LawBringer
- This move makes Tyr able to be Tyr. I'm not sure Tyr would be very great if he had any other ult and did not have blink as an active. The ult is mainly used to get behind players to pull of his combo which basically is death to most gods in the game that aren't tanks or warriors. Its also great for escape and can go over walls.

What I think about Tyr overall
- He has CC displacement, super strong when he lands it because he can MOVE gods around!
- His CC displacement combo can catch an entire team!
- His CC displacement combo does a lot of damage on most gods
- His heal is perfectly fine and lets you sustain well enough to stay in lane/fights
- His Ult closes any gaps that he can't get too, any gods running and if blink is down.

*The biggest Pro of Try*

M O B I L I T Y !!!

- Tyr is super mobile and that is why I think he is actually quite a strong god and not as weak as people think he is at least from my perspective. He basically has two dashes since he can dash once, switch stances and dash again, then he can ult for a even further distance, on top of this with blink you will be the most mobile god in the game most likely. Tyr can chase most gods down and get away from a lot of situations.

The down side is he is predictable but isn't everything in smite?

My Final Conclusion : I think Tyr is actually a balanced god! Yes I said it! I think his nerfs balanced him because he is not weak enough to where he can't do anything and he is not so strong that everyone is crying for more nerfs. I think people are mistaking balanced for being underpowered in Smite sometimes. You may have other gods that are strong true, but that does not make Tyr under powered, he is still balanced, it just means he is not as strong as someone else. That doesn't mean much though, I give Tyr the balanced Stamp, for some reason I think he is one of the most balanced gods I noticed lately.

Do not agree with me just to agree with me, this is just my opinion on Tyr, if anyone thinks differently about him let me know in the comments, or if any of you think the same let me know.
Also keep me up to date on what the word is about Tyr, am I right in what I said or do I have it wrong.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SurvivorZombeh » August 15, 2014 8:01am | Report
Tyr is by far my best god, I played him right when he came out, since I loved Tyr outside of smite before he was in smite. Now I have a god rank 10 Tyr, and I'm pretty good with him. Through out time it seems he's been nerfed a bit but not to much. Overall I do agree he's pretty balanced, and very versatile depending on how you build him. I'm just glad my favorite god is getting some love.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » August 15, 2014 12:59pm | Report
Like said above me, Tyr is one of my favorite gods outside of Smite. In Smite, I think he's in a decent place. He could stand for a bit more damage, but by no means is he weak.

Most of the time, I play him a bit like a support, as well. Build a bit tanky, but I will also build up some damage so I can possibly get a kill or something with him (mind you, I don't play CQ). But either way it goes, his 1+2 combo is the best thing about him, seriously displacing the enemy so hopefully your team can jump all over that enemy, or just allowing you to do some serious damage/possibly get a kill.

So yeah, I think he's in a good spot right now. Definitely not as powerful as he used to be before his own nerf and the warrior nerfs, but I still enjoy playing him quite a bit.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 15, 2014 2:07pm | Report
I am not sure if I was facing a noob Chaac or not but I actually won solo lane against a Chaac

I actually remember that Tyr's combo seemed to take a bit of Chaac's hp away and I recall Chaac be forced to get hit by my combo once he is in it.

I know that Chaac is a very strong pick, for some reason he seemed not that hard to face as a Tyr but then again I might have been facing a bad player.

To me it seemed that Chaac couldn't really fight me as easy, other than trying to poke with a Hammer which he has to use to clear waves.

What happens in solo is Chaac would use his hammer then try auto attacking minions, I would just hit him with the combo if he ever tries to get close to me and it would take a decent amount of his hp away to where he has to heal up or get away from me.

Hercules seemed to be more of a problem for Tyr, when I tried ganking him he would just driving strike to cancel my combo before I get it. So I actually had more problems ganking a Hercules than fighting a Chaac.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » August 15, 2014 3:27pm | Report
mmm I would only throw the hammer when the minions are all in it and even better when the god is in it too XD.

Still the combo is annoying but when building right tyr shouldn't be a really big problem for him.

(can you recall him going Warrior Tabi-hide of urchin- Jotunn's Wrath- Qin's Sais/defensive item based on enemy team mostly Shifter's Shield- Mystical Mail/ Void Shield- Ancile (could be build earlier)/ Runic Shield) and as final item going something like Titan's Bane or something else)

at least I normally didn't do good or bad against tyr's. but not grat either.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 15, 2014 3:48pm | Report
Devampi wrote:

mmm I would only throw the hammer when the minions are all in it and even better when the god is in it too XD.

Still the combo is annoying but when building right tyr shouldn't be a really big problem for him.

(can you recall him going Warrior Tabi-hide of urchin- Jotunn's Wrath- Qin's Sais/defensive item based on enemy team mostly Shifter's Shield- Mystical Mail/ Void Shield- Ancile (could be build earlier)/ Runic Shield) and as final item going something like Titan's Bane or something else)

at least I normally didn't do good or bad against tyr's. but not grat either.
I can't remember what his build was but I think his problem was that he kept trying to auto attack me after fighting the wave.

Maybe if he would keep his distance and just poke it would be harder to deal with the Chaac but I think the players problem was that he kept thinking he could attack me head on, which just ended up with me doing Tyr's combo.

Because Chaac seems like he is more about poking with the Hammer over time where as if Tyr is up close he does more of his damage all at once. I think he would have probably did better with Chaac if he wasn't trying to fight Tyr strait up allowing Tyr to do his combo.

I'm not sure if Chaac's axe throw can out damage Tyr's sustain or not, like wise I'm not sure if Tyr can kill Chaac before he does his rain dance and heals back up as well.

I think Tyr can kill Chaac only if Chaac stays up close to Tyr and doesn't have enough time to heal safely. I see CHaac as being more of a threat by poking you to death with high damage while sustaining, but Tyr can heal back up as well although its not as great because Chaac doesn't need to hit anything to heal.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » August 18, 2014 1:44am | Report
ICEN wrote:

I can't remember what his build was but I think his problem was that he kept trying to auto attack me after fighting the wave.

Maybe if he would keep his distance and just poke it would be harder to deal with the Chaac but I think the players problem was that he kept thinking he could attack me head on, which just ended up with me doing Tyr's combo.

Because Chaac seems like he is more about poking with the Hammer over time where as if Tyr is up close he does more of his damage all at once. I think he would have probably did better with Chaac if he wasn't trying to fight Tyr strait up allowing Tyr to do his combo.

I'm not sure if Chaac's axe throw can out damage Tyr's sustain or not, like wise I'm not sure if Tyr can kill Chaac before he does his rain dance and heals back up as well.

I think Tyr can kill Chaac only if Chaac stays up close to Tyr and doesn't have enough time to heal safely. I see CHaac as being more of a threat by poking you to death with high damage while sustaining, but Tyr can heal back up as well although its not as great because Chaac doesn't need to hit anything to heal.


well the problem is clear he thinks he can do damage with his AA early on that's not so smart.

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