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The only problem I have with is her ultimate.
Its better in (almost) everyway at finishing of somebody at low health compared to , a ultimate which is suppose to be used to finish of people at low health!

Tbh, there are a lot of ults that are better at finishing people off than . , , Spirit's Tempest, , and what have you. All of these deal tons of damage and can quite easily squish low health targets. 's advantage lies in the ability to catch up to fleeing targets, hitting over walls, escaping and being just as effective against tanks as squishies. A well built tank can stomach one of these other ults and survive (often just barely), but is an instant kill no matter how high their protections.

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is not overpowered. I had figured by now most people would understand the implications of using that word. Seeing lots of complaints about her damage, thought I would address that. You have to be smart with Freya to actually get the full potential of her / abilities. When used together, she has strong range and damage at the sacrifice of the slow effect. That's not all she loses, however. She also loses the area of effect from , so you can use minions and towers as cover.

Freya's ultimate is fine where it is currently, you have a small window of time before she goes in the air to hard CC her, and burst her before she can burst you. The invulnerability she gets midair is lost if she uses all 4 casts, and, as previously stated, she doesn't go any faster in midair. If she is low health just chase her down.

One thing I WILL agree on, is that Freya's slow is very strong against gods with no leap/dash mechanic. Her stacks with the last time I checked, so mid-lategame she is dangerous to take on alone if you have no escape.

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I think you're confused. I'm not arguing that she's imbalanced, I'm arguing that she's really good and the implication that simply knowing her mechanics makes her "no problem", is false.

I don't see how a stun also doing something means anything, the reason I brought up her cc was to illustrate that you can't just wait for to come down from her ult and expect a free kill...she still has abilities to help herself.

Maybe we should define "problem". An IMBA god is a problem - Freya isn't - at least not more than the average god in smite.

There is an average level and all what is more than that is a bonus and all what is less - isn't. Freyas has less and/or less useful CC than average attack based god - so it confused me that you start to argue with
"Yes she is, because of her cc and damage potential she's a constant threat regardless of whether you know her mechanics or not."

I'm still so confused that I didn't saw that you just" brought up her cc to illustrate that you can't just wait for to come down from her ult and expect a free kill". Really, I didn't saw that in all your posts in this thread until the last one. I thought you spoke about "turn a 1v2 into a 1v1, a 2v2 into a 2v1" but ok, if you were talking about the end of her ultimate - no problem.

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The reason Gem of Isolation is a core item is because it slows on basic attacks, which is where all of her damage comes from. Even if she had a snare or stun(which would for certain make her unbalanced) she would still get Gem of Isolation. My point was that you don't have to sacrifice the large amount of damage to use her slow ability, you can get this item which does all of the work for you.

If I follow this argument, Frostbound Hammer have to be a core item for all physical AA based gods but it isn't. You buy what you need and if you have already good CC but need more damage you will use other items. As soon you need this CC more than additional damage you will buy Gem or Hammer.

Do you remember the time of the old Irradiate - nobody used it - all used only Pulse. I see much more GoI today than at this time. Freya did too less damage but 25% slow was enough to stay on the opponent. So a lot of player prefered to get some additional damage than additional slow. It's a question of diminishing marginal utility.

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Artemis has insane damage, so...I don't really know why you thought this was a good point. I agree, Freya does insane damage like Artemis.

Good, do you also agree that Artemis has ranged damage all the time, more damage if steriod isn't up and more utility?
Would you say that Artemis is a problem?

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One thing I WILL agree on, is that Freya's slow is very strong against gods with no leap/dash mechanic. Her stacks with the last time I checked, so mid-lategame she is dangerous to take on alone if you have no escape.

Hmm, yes, 45.5% less MS hurts but she does less damage than each physical AA god with pulse only and even that only for 5 sec. Sure, if you have no sprint, no c-blink, no stun, no root, no mesmerize, no good slow, no teleport, no jump, no dash, no slow immunity via speed skills, no vanish and nothing to zone her away - yes, in this case she is dangerous but who isn't?

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most Freyas I see build , which means that they have pretty significant move speed boost once they start attacking. This means that c-blink, dashes, teleports, jumps(unless you jump over a wall), etc. aren't quite as useful against her as you'd think.

I can't tell you how many times I've rooted a Freya on Nieth and backflipped away, only to have her right ontop of me again a few moments later.

and even if you do get away from her, say, by stacking your c-blink and a dash, she just ults and kills you anyway.

All that being said, Chrono is still worse than her. freakin chrono. You can at least avoid freya...

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Instead of running away, run behind her. Then continue to circle. Good way to troll a lot of freyas.

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^ hes not wrong. If your an assassin or ADC you can win pretty easily against a less than skilled
And the big problem with the 45% slow is the rest of her team. Does she do damage? not really. Does the ulti? Kinda. Also since every Freya ever builds they can backpedal while applying the slow, making them all but impossible to reach once you use your jumps to catch her the first time (and no decent Freya will be caught without one, unless your ). Or slow, banish, and gtfo (screw you ). Just because her CC has little to no offensive use doesn't make it less viable. I just played a Freya that wasn't that good, but hardly ever died. She is a bit op, towers should be able to hit her in flight for one.

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