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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Xareth » November 21, 2012 12:20pm | Report
Thank you for a legitimate response.

I didn't get angry or upset. You are free to disagree with my opinions, but can't take one line out of context and tell me I'm wrong.

I understand your point about tiers, but it is the entire job of the game developers to try to make it as balanced as possible, and I think they do a pretty good job across the board. I played LoL for awhile, of course, so am not new to MOBAs, just Smite. I have found that people will talk trash on heroes that are hard to play until someone finds a good strategy with them and then the "become" so OP that they get nerfed.

As far as Loki is concerned, maybe the top tier gamers don't want to take Loki into a ranked game because they don't feel it's worth the risk. That is a far cry from him being a trash god, or ineffective. He is squishy and gets focused because he is so devastating. Built correctly Loki can 2-3 shot support / carries and 4-5 shot tanks towards the end of the game. He has 2 escapes, and can purchase abilities which help even more. There are several carries who can't boast this type of unreal fast damage and escapes.

Loki is not meant to be able to survive blows the same way that Artemis and Cupid aren't. The difference is that they are ranged and have more cc. Loki is the first stealth god and the only melee carry to be as squishy (or squishier) than his ranged counterparts. We are talking about uncharted territory. Loki was released less than 3 weeks ago! This means that while lots of games have been played with him, the Smite community in general may not have been able to properly assess his potential.

If Loki gets ahead, he forces the enemy team to focus or face utter destruction. With the right team and the right strategy Loki can pose a serious threat in any level of game play. You may point out that I don't have any facts to back this up, which is true, but I understand the structure of the game and how it should be played strategically. I have played lots of rogues in many other games and types of games, though, so maybe I understand his role better than most. Another truth that is if the enemy team realizes that you are a good Loki and you don't have the support of your team you will surely be squelched.

Asmoday, I'd tell you to try out playing Loki and see for yourself but in your own words

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I suck at melee really badly lol.


so I can see why you have this negative view of him. He is by FAR the hardest god to play in the game right now, but a melee glass cannon usually is, as is the reward for the risk if you are able to play them well.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Westighouse » November 21, 2012 12:40pm | Report
I have played him many a times, Ill even go into my history and screen shot if you.

He just isnt a good god, you get into a team fight and any AE that is being spammed is going to kill you. Unless your early game gets you fed and you win in early game then Loki cant survive going into late game.

You said the exact reason why loki is bad, the risk is too high and the reward is not there, and any tank that gets 4 shot by a loki is doing it horribly wrong lol. In a game type where you want to take towers and stay in fights to push the other team away, loki is nothing but a disadvantage for your team. He just can no simply do what is needed in team fights. If his defense went up some then he would be a great god, but getting 2 shot himself just is never worth a pick.

You were also given a legit answer before I have just had to repeat it 3 times and give over the top examples that spanned a giant amount of space for you to get it is all.

Besides, the thread is derailed so go back to topic.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Lethalized » November 21, 2012 12:48pm | Report
Imo, Loki is good for arena, nothing else.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Niex » November 21, 2012 1:17pm | Report
Loved Ra when you could do the Circlet of Focus and Midas' Boots
Easy farmer, out leveled and gained gold faster.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Xareth » November 21, 2012 1:44pm | Report
Quoted:

I have played him many a times, Ill even go into my history and screen shot if you.


What's the point if you can't play a melee?

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He just isnt a good god, you get into a team fight and any AE that is being spammed is going to kill you. Unless your early game gets you fed and you win in early game then Loki cant survive going into late game.

You said the exact reason why loki is bad, the risk is too high and the reward is not there, and any tank that gets 4 shot by a loki is doing it horribly wrong lol. In a game type where you want to take towers and stay in fights to push the other team away, loki is nothing but a disadvantage for your team. He just can no simply do what is needed in team fights. If his defense went up some then he would be a great god, but getting 2 shot himself just is never worth a pick.


Loki is an assassin. He cannot fight toe-to-toe. He was not built that way. You would have to play him a different way than you play any other god, which I'm sure you don't.

You are putting words into my mouth. The risk with him is high but the reward is there. You are able to open on a god without seeing you and kill them or have them at 20% before they have a chance to react.

No tank can build enough defense to not be 4 shot by Loki unless they build 6 physical defense items. Then it will take only a few more shot. Maybe you don't know how to build Loki and are building Fatalis with him ^^. How high does a good tanks Physical Defense get? Take 45% of that away and then subtract 20, 40, and then 60 for any hit after the third. I am landing 1k shots consistently, even against tanks, and we're not even talking about the effects of Qin's Blades.

You are very knowledgeable on most Smite topics, but here you just think you're right with nothing to back it up. Again, Loki has been out for 3 weeks, and if he is as underpowered as you, and many others, say he is maybe HiRez will buff his defensive stats. I will lol at that if they do. He is hard to play atm, but the reward is definitely worth the risk. What tank is going to survive 600, 400, 500, 1k, 700, 1k...? That damage is relatively conservative for end game, and the first 4 happen before they can even react - opening with my ult. And if I don't open with my ult it's 5-600 in bleed damage.

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You were also given a legit answer before I have just had to repeat it 3 times and give over the top examples that spanned a giant amount of space for you to get it is all.


You did not. Your first response was a troll post. Your second reply actually got into your opinion on the matter, but that was all (pretty sure that's only 2, my math is normally very good). Furthermore, you don't really have a legit answer, just a theoretical opinion that you're trying to pass off as absolute truth. How dare you talk down to me like I'm dumb and can't understand what you're writing. Now you've insulted me, and I am upset. Just because you normally know what you're talking about doesn't mean you are right here. It would behoove you to treat some of these Smite newbies with more respect, it just may turn out that you are wrong (like you were about Agni's ult not being affected by cooldown reduction).

You are a haughty one, eh?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tukuto » November 21, 2012 3:21pm | Report
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You opinion is noted, its wrong, but noted.

Ask ANY person that is streaming Smite if they would take Loki into competitive play. Every single one will say no because his defense is terrible.

The most solid MOBA is LoL and they even have the tier lists listed as to who and what is better.
It is just a simple fact that some gods out class other gods.

Would you rather have an ares or a Ymir tank?
If you say Ymir congratz you are right. Now why is that? You are right, Ares kit is no longer viable in a game. He is 50% slowed during his ult, that is easily and usually fully countered. They just kill him before the ult goes off now. His 2 got nerfed into the ground and is no longer a viable skill to use when you can just get an item instead now. A whole 4 more protection doesnt even stop 1 point of damage.

Ymir out classes him because of better CC, an amazing auto attack, a team/lane wide disrupting ult that cant be stopped since he just freezes you in place first.

You yourself have said it numerous times, you are new to Smite and this only makes it clear. Gods are not balanced, they never will be. They can try the best to, but as gods come out they will out class one another, suddenly one god who was bad is now good because that new god that was just put into the game works with the bad one and now they can do some really neat things, and in doing so makes this old great god a bad choice now.

Anyone that has been playing MOBAs for longer than 6 months understands this is just how this works. Go on ahead and flame and get all angry, doesnt effect me in the slightest, but your opinion is incorrect tho you are allowed to have it.


i agree with asmoday ^_^
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Westighouse » November 21, 2012 3:23pm | Report
I can tell you just dont understand Smite enough and think one of the worst gods is viable. There is no way of changing your mind and you keep this thread off topic for your personal needs.

Good luck being good in Smite, and good luck with that Loki. He is a trash god and you are obviously just too new to this game to understand that, and then saying anything I posted was a troll post. That sir, is hilarious and I applaud your random comment.

This is done, you have thrown this way off topic, and have been asked already to keep it on track. So either keep posting things you know nothing about and be reported for derailing threads or bring it back on topic and go along your marry way.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Lethalized » November 21, 2012 4:59pm | Report
Thanks Asmoday,for putting it back on topic...Anyways, my favorite mid lane is Artemis!not the best,but my favorite!
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by 7up478 » March 23, 2013 9:16am | Report
Quoted:

I can tell you just dont understand Smite enough and think one of the worst gods is viable.


One of the worst gods? Just because you aren't good with a god doesn't make them bad, Loki has a different playstyle then every other god in the game but you previously said that you were playing him LIKE other phys carries. Loki should never participate in team fights, he just doesn't have the survivability for it, all you have to do is hang behind your team until you see an enemy that gets too far from the group and then ult in auto them a couple times and use vanish to escape.

Loki is currently the only god in the game that actually REQUIRES skill to play, other gods have that as sort of a secondary thing. Yes Loki can be 2-3 hit lategame, but he can do the same to other gods, and he can always get the first strike guarenteeing him the win in that fight, if you aren't getting the first strike, you are playing him wrong. Simple as that. He is very reliant on his unique kit to help him survive and thrive, if you are going in without your vanish / ult ready, chances are you'll die, but that isn't the gods fault, it is yours.

Ps. My favourite mid god is any melee physical, I prefer playing gods that the enemy will not be used to fighting.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by JararoNatsu » March 23, 2013 11:38pm | Report
Kinda strange that you brought this topic back, seeing as it hasn't been posted on in four months. Although looking at it makes me glad that he (Asmoday) is not here insulting everyone anymore.

Since the thread is alive again, I'll say that my favorite mid is Cupid. With his DPS and his heal, he makes a great mid.

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