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Hastened Fatalis - Who and When?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zerosaviour » October 31, 2013 7:13pm | Report
The only one I could see it for is Bakasura. Even then, all he would have to do is invest in the frost hammer or creeping curse and the items overall usefulness would be negated.

That's the only thing I don't like about it. Once you get a slow item; the hastened becomes kinda useless.
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Zerosaviour wrote:

The only one I could see it for is Bakasura. Even then, all he would have to do is invest in the frost hammer or creeping curse and the items overall usefulness would be negated.

That's the only thing I don't like about it. Once you get a slow item; the hastened becomes kinda useless.


True, but with the new fatalis you don't have to get Frostbound or creeping and you can skip a attack speed item as well, so you get an extra active slot and 1 extra item slot.

So you can get girdle, beads etc instead of creeping.

You can take Titans or we instead of frosbound.

I would take it on Ne Zha, Mercury, Bakasura and Freya at least :p
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BestMinionEver wrote:



True, but with the new fatalis you don't have to get Frostbound or creeping and you can skip a attack speed item as well, so you get an extra active slot and 1 extra item slot.

So you can get girdle, beads etc instead of creeping.

You can take Titans or we instead of frosbound.

I would take it on Ne Zha, Mercury, Bakasura and Freya at least :p


Fatalis in general is worthless on Merc due to his steroid and passive.
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Zerosaviour wrote:

Fatalis in general is worthless on Merc due to his steroid and passive.


If you build Fatalis and Rage/Malice as your attack speed items you are hitting the cap at lvl 14 with maxed steroids which isn't that bad, and you are never more than 0,16 over the cap.

And the fact that you can build Devo gloves and Titan's gives you so much damage (this is ofc for when you jungle with Mercury, if you solo Fatalis is useless).

To me that is not worthless at all. :p
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BestMinionEver wrote:



If you build Fatalis and Rage/Malice as your attack speed items you are hitting the cap at lvl 14 with maxed steroids which isn't that bad, and you are never more than 0,16 over the cap.

And the fact that you can build Devo gloves and Titan's gives you so much damage (this is ofc for when you jungle with Mercury, if you solo Fatalis is useless).

To me that is not worthless at all. :p


But then you lock yourself out of Qin Blades/Sais. Which is a better pick up on Merc than Fatalis. Especially if your going rage/deathbringer.
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You get more damage from Devo than Qin, that's the hole reason for getting Fatalis. It lets you take Devo over Qin's which is a overall increase in damage :P
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zerosaviour » November 2, 2013 9:51am | Report
BestMinionEver wrote:

You get more damage from Devo than Qin, that's the hole reason for getting Fatalis. It lets you take Devo over Qin's which is a overall increase in damage :P


Unless they have a lot of health items or in Sai's case low on health.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » November 8, 2013 1:48am | Report
BestMinionEver wrote:

You get more damage from Devo than Qin, that's the hole reason for getting Fatalis. It lets you take Devo over Qin's which is a overall increase in damage :P

Devo:
60 * (1 + 0.6 * 1.5) = 114 damage

Qin's Blades:
30 * (1 + 0.6 * 1.5) = 57 damage
    Passive against 2000 HP => 80 damage
    Passive against 2500 HP => 100 damage
    Passive against 3000 HP => 120 damage
and 25% AS
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » November 8, 2013 6:10am | Report
Tantal wrote:

Devo:
60 * (1 + 0.6 * 1.5) = 114 damage

Qin's Blades:
30 * (1 + 0.6 * 1.5) = 57 damage
    Passive against 2000 HP => 80 damage
    Passive against 2500 HP => 100 damage
    Passive against 3000 HP => 120 damage
and 25% AS


That is only on basic attacks and Made You Look though, and if you go Hastened Fatalis the extra AS is a waste. And you get a lot more LS with Devo than Qin's.

But I'm not saying that Qin's are bad, just that if you are going Hastened Fatalis you are better off going with Devo or Bloodforge. :)
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