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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » June 4, 2015 4:38pm | Report
FemFatalis wrote:

No. Pros playing gods and beating pros means something.


A pro player uses Agni and loses to a pro Janus player 30 times in a row
A non pro player uses Agni and beats a pro Janus player 30 times in a row

Which god is better
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » June 4, 2015 4:46pm | Report
Janus at high level, Agni at low level, would be the logical conclusion.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » June 4, 2015 4:55pm | Report
dacoqrs wrote:

Janus at high level, Agni at low level, would be the logical conclusion.
Now lets reverse the same question so you can see how failure a tier list based on this is





A pro player uses Janus and loses to a pro Agni player 30 times in a row
A non pro player uses Janus and beats a pro Agni player 30 times in a row

Which god is better
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FemFatalis » June 4, 2015 4:56pm | Report
Agni.
The metagame changes.
I'd honestly love to see you play Lassiz's Janus] in the mid lane.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » June 4, 2015 4:57pm | Report
FemFatalis wrote:

Agni.
The metagame changes.
All your doing is proving a tier list based upon the same gods, same items, can change based upon what people are playing and doing good with even if the game state is exactly the same.

Thanks for proving why tier list like that are failure
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FemFatalis » June 4, 2015 4:58pm | Report
That's your opinion. You seem to posting an awful lot on here for thinking it's a failure.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » June 4, 2015 4:59pm | Report
FemFatalis wrote:

Agni.
The metagame changes.
I'd honestly love to see you play Lassiz's Janus] in the mid lane.
#1 we were talking about Joust

Are you saying if I beat Lassiz that makes Agni top tier of Janus then?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » June 4, 2015 5:02pm | Report
FemFatalis wrote:

That's your opinion. You seem to posting an awful lot on here for thinking it's a failure.
Yes, usually when someone defeats their own argument I usually post alot on it.

When someone makes a tier list based upon a non consistent tier list you are right I will post on how failure that its being the tier list will just keep changing over and over even if no items, gods, updates are added or changed.

Yes, I tend to post alot when I spot failures.

Explain how this is NOT a failure

- Tier list is based upon the meta picks/win rates/pro players beating pro players.

Lets say Janus is S tier because the pick rate was high in the SPL, win rate was high, pro players were winning against other mids.

- 5 months later the same exact God is picked less, win rate drops a bit, pro players start losing a bit more than they did last SPL.

Janus is now A tier

Yes because this type of tier list is NOT a failure.

Give me a break, this is the biggest type of failure tier list you could possibly make, all it will never stay consistent and all your doing is jocking what players using in the past months or doing good with and equating it to god tier.

The same exact god can change tier at any given time
- No item changes
- No updates
- No nerfs
- No buffs
- No map change

- someone gets bored of a god and now everyone is playing Vulcan

Vulcan is the new top tier, Janus drops a tier for no reason even though everything is the exact same

Yes, I will keep saying how a tier list like that is failure.

Because it IS failure
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FemFatalis » June 4, 2015 5:04pm | Report
So you've pointed out the failure. I'm going to continue contributing to this list, even though you think it's a failure.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » June 4, 2015 5:05pm | Report
ICEN wrote:

Yes, I tend to post alot when I spot failures.


Then you must have a lot of arguments with the game itself. Tell me, if you are SOOO good at spotting failures, what is Agni's main failure ? I'm curious to see your answer.
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