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Smite God: Ne Zha

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Ne Zha Build

Starter items

Notes is the standard starter item for physical junglers. It has a lot of power and it builds into some of the strongest earlygame items, like and .

sacrifices 5 power to give you 5% movement speed, which is really good if you are looking to fight before you get . It also builds into and which are two great earlygame items.

sacrifices 5 power to give you more potions, which can be nice if you are new to the game or if you are looking to be super aggressive early. It also builds into or . None of them are insane earlygame items, but it is nice to start stacking as early as possible.

Assassin's Blessing

Katana

Mace

Morningstar

Relics

Notes Pretty standard relic choices, I reccomend going first then go into or , but then you should get to make up for not having beads.

Aegis Amulet

Blink Rune

Purification Beads

Good Item choices

Notes This is the list of items that I personally think are good picks for , in alphabetical order. For an in depth explanation on the items go to the dedicated chapter in the guide.

Brawler's Beat Stick

Deathbringer

Jotunn's Wrath

Magi's Cloak

Mantle of Discord

Breastplate of Regrowth

Shifter's Shield

The Crusher

Titan's Bane

Transcendence

Warrior Tabi

Winged Blade

Questonable item choices

Notes These are items that are fun to use and that can be good in some situations. But mainly troll items, I will go more in depth on these items in the dedicated chapter.

Bloodforge

Hastened Katana

Heartseeker

Hydra's Lament

Malice

Masamune

Runic Shield

Stone Cutting Sword

The Executioner

Void Shield

Example build

Notes Pros:
40% cooldown reduction early in the game.
Sudo on a 10 second cooldown (just without slow immunity and hastened effect).
Great survivability with shield of regrowth and .
Pretty cheap build.

Cons:
Late powerspike.
Low penetration.

Warrior Tabi

Transcendence

Jotunn's Wrath

Breastplate of Regrowth

Magi's Cloak

Deathbringer

Example build

Notes Pros:
Early power spike with .
High penetration.
High attackspeed.

Cons:
Low cooldown reduction.
No bubble from or MS from shield of regrowth.

Warrior Tabi

The Crusher

Brawler's Beat Stick

Titan's Bane

Mantle of Discord

Deathbringer

Ne Zha's Skill Order

Universe Ring Toss

1 X

1 3 6 7 8

Flaming Spear

2 A

4 10 11 12 14

Armillary Sash

3 B

2 15 16 18 19

Wind Fire Wheels

4 Y

5 9 13 17 20

1 3 6 7 8

Universe Ring Toss

1 X

Ne Zha throws the Universe Ring, bouncing several times, dealing damage, applying a Physical Protection Debuff for 3s and Slowing by 12.5% for 1s. Each hit also stacks a movement speed buff on Ne Zha for 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target deal 35% less damage and double the Slow's effectiveness.

Ability Type: Line, Slow, Damage
Initial Damage: 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 (+40% of your Physical Power)
Damage: 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 / 175 (+20% of your Physical Power)
Bounces: 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8
Protections Debuff: 5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 13 per hit
Movement Speed: 5% per hit
Cost: 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70
Cooldown: 14s

4 10 11 12 14

Flaming Spear

2 A

Ne Zha empowers himself with fighting spirit, igniting his spear for increased Attack Speed and Critical Strike Chance for a short duration. Upon activation, Ne Zha also heals himself based on each stack of his passive ability.

Ability Type: Buff
Attack Speed: 25 / 32.5 / 40 / 47.5 / 55%
Critical Strike Chance: 20%
Duration: 4 / 4.5 / 5 / 5.5 / 6s
Healing: 4 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12
Cost: 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75
Cooldown: 14s

2 15 16 18 19

Armillary Sash

3 B

Ne Zha throws out his Armillary Sash hitting the first enemy god in its path. The target is Stunned as Ne Zha yanks himself toward the target, dealing a powerful blow to all enemies in the area as he arrives.

Ability Type: Line, Stun, Damage
Damage: 90 / 140 / 190 / 240 / 290 (+150% of your Physical Power)
Stun: 1s
Range: 70
Radius: 10
Cost: 75
Cooldown: 12s

5 9 13 17 20

Wind Fire Wheels

4 Y

Ne Zha dashes forward, gaining bonus Protections for 4s and becoming CC immune. If he hits an enemy god he lifts them into the sky for 4s, unleashing a 3-hit combo. Successfully timed attacks during the combo result in these hits dealing Critical Damage. They are then smashed back to Earth, slightly knocking up and damaging the target and enemies around the landing location. When Ne Zha lands he gains bonus Protections for 5s and dashes back to where he cast this ability.

Ability Type: Dash, Crowd Control, Damage
Damage Per Hit: 23 / 40 / 57 / 74 / 91 (+45% of your Physical Power)
Damage (Initial/Landing): 50 / 105 / 160 / 215 / 270 (65% of your Physical Power)
Protections: 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50
Cost: 80 / 90 / 100 / 110 / 120
Cooldown: 90 / 85 / 80 / 75 / 70s

Introduction

UPDATE IN PROGRESS

I am currently just trying to update the essentials at least to make it somewhat relevant at least. All feedback is appreciated!

Stuff that is updated;
Item selection (not set in stone though).
Deleted some chapters that where targeted towards specific builds.

Stuff that is being worked on:
Currently working on the layout and content of chapter 1.

Stuff that is on hold:
Edit chapter 3, maybe merge it into chapter 1 somehow.
Reworking chapter 2 and dedicate it to all the good/normal items.
Update the jungle charter.
Add a chapter for fun/troll/supersituational items.

#1 Skillset explained

In this chapter I will present the stats of each ability and give you a short explanation of how you can use the ability.

Righteous Spirit (Passive)

Passive
Buff
Stacks

Ne Zha's spirit is strengthened as he successfully hits enemies with abilities and basic attacks. Each hit provides 1 stack and each Critical Hit provides 2 stacks. Stacks remain until Ne Zha is out of combat for 5s.

Maximum Stacks: 20
Critical Strike Chance per Stack: 0.5%

In addition to the passive Ne Zha has a basic attack chain that goes 1 -> 1 -> 1,5 -> 2 with the last swing being a cone attack that deals damage in front of you.

Critical hit chance is always great, at 20 stacks you get 10% critical hit chance. This will help you a lot with your jungle clear and boxing potential. Getting a critical hit with the last swing of your basic attack chain deals a ton of damage, especially late game. To maximize your efficiency you need to keep the passive stacked.

As mentioned the basic attack chain consists of 4 swings, the first two deal 1x damage at 1x attack speed. You want to use these when chasing someone, because you lose the basic attack movement penalty faster.

The 3rd swing is 1,5x damage and you attack is 50% slower as well as you.

The 4th attack is 2x the damage and as mentioned it deals damage in a cone in front of you, but it is also twice as slow as the 2 first attacks. You want to use this for clearing multiple minions, and for fighting someone when you are up close.
I will go more in depth on this in its own chapter.

Universe Ring Toss

Skillshot
Damage
Selfbuff
Debuff
Stacks

Ne Zha throws the Universe Ring, bouncing several times, dealing damage, applying a Physical Protection Debuff for 3s and Slowing for 1s. Each hit also stacks a movement speed buff on Ne Zha for 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target deal 25% less damage.

Ability Type: Projectile
Damage: 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 / 175 (+20% of your Physical Power)
Bounces: 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8
Protections Debuff: 15 per hit
Slow: 25%
Movement Speed: 5% per hit
Cost: 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70
Cooldown: 14s

This is your main ability and you always want to max this first (except when you can level up your ultimate).

This ability is similar to 's it just deals a lot more damage, especially in combination with . So take advantage of that in the early game. Your jungle clear is one of the best in the game. And for fighting enemy gods it actually makes you stronger 1 vs 2 than you are 1 vs 1. Just get it to bounce between two enemy gods and the protection debuff and the damage form will just melt them.

The movement speed buff (25% at level 1 and 45% at level 5) is great for both chasing and escaping enemies. The slow debuff only lasts for 1 second, so be sure that is able to bounce to something after the initial hit to give you the stacks of movement speed. A lot of the time it is better to throw the ring at a minion wave or jungle camp so that you get the speed buff, but if you get it to bounce between two enemy gods each bounce will apply the slow an you will easily catch up or get away. As well as applying the protection debuff and the damage, making them easy targets for your teammates if you are trying to escape.

Flaming Spear

Activation
Selfbuff
Selfheal

Ne Zha empowers himself with fighting spirit, igniting his spear for increased Attack Speed and Critical Strike Chance for a short duration. Upon activation, Ne Zha is healed depending on how many stacks he currently has from his passive ability, Righteous Spirit.

Ability Type: Buff
Attack Speed: 15 / 25 / 35 / 45 / 55%
Critical Strike Chance: 15%
Duration: 4 / 4.5 / 5 / 5.5 / 6s
Heal per Passive Stack: 0.75%
Cost: 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75
Cooldown: 18 / 17 / 16 / 15 / 14s

This is a steroid that buffs your attack speed and critical hit chance as well as a self heal depending on how many stacks of you have (15% at 20 stacks).
You will normally want to max this second because of the increased attack speed buff (15% at level 1 and 55% at level 5) as well as the increased duration (4 seconds at level 1 and 6 seconds at level 5) and the decreased cooldown (18 seconds at level 1 and 14 seconds at level 5). This ability is insanely strong late game, and lets you 1 vs 1 pretty much everyone. You might have some problem boxing a , but hunters do not stand a chance as long as you are able to stick to them. It is also great for sustain in the jungle and clearing camps, the critical hit chance and attack speed works perfectly with your passive and basic attack chain.

Armillary Sash

Skillshot
Damage
Stun
Immunity

Ne Zha throws out his Armillary Sash hitting the first enemy god in its path. The target is stunned as Ne Zha yanks himself toward the target, dealing a powerful blow to all enemies in the area when he arrives. This ability can critically hit.

Ability Type: Projectile, Dash
Damage: 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 / 190 (+100% of your physical power)
Stun: 1s
Radius: 10
Cost: 75
Cooldown: 14s

It is important to note that this ability only works on enemy gods. It is a long range single target stun that deals damage to all enemies close to the target. You should also keep in mind that this ability can critical hit, so it works well with and
You will normally max this last because all you get is an extra 30 damage for each level (which of course is doubled if you get a critical hit).
This is your key ability for your killcombo, so if you are behind maxing this to get that extra damage from the combo will be more useful for you and your team than maxing . The extra damage will be more important when you get and can get consistent critical hits with it.

This ability takes some practice to master because it has a pretty long animation and travel time, but it is crucial for your combo (as mentioned earlier) and overall gameplay.
A very important thing to keep in mind is the immunity you get while you are pulling yourself to the target. If you learn to master this you can dodge a lot of damage and the outplay potential is huge! You also have to keep in mind that it is a stun so it is great for interrupting abilities like . It is also decent for setting up skillshots for your teammates like .

It is also one of the best purification beads burners in the game because of the looming threat of you having ready for the killcombo, so take advantage of this.

Wind Fire Wheels

Skillshot
Dash
Damage
Lockdown

Ne Zha dashes forward. If he hits an enemy god, he knocks it skyward for 4s, unleashing a combo (successfully timed attacks during the combo result in critical strikes), then smashing back to Earth, dealing additional damage to enemies in the radius as he flips back to his starting location.

Ability Type: Dash
Damage: 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 (+30% of your physical power)
Damage (Landing): 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (50% of your physical power)
Cost: 80 / 90 / 100 / 110 / 120
Cooldown: 90s

This ability also only effects enemy gods, but it is also a dash. When you hit an enemy god with it you throw them (and yourself) into the air for 4 seconds. While in the air you will hit the enemy three times. Each hit will have and indication of when you should hit your basic attack button and if you time it correctly the hit will be a critical hit. After the three hits you will crash back on the ground dealing damage to all enemies close to the target and you will dash back to where you originally was before dashing towards the enemy.

In my opinion this is the coolest ability in the game, both in looks and the fact that it literally takes an enemy out of the game for 4 seconds. The damage is decent, but it does not really shine before you have . It is also one of the best setup ability in the game, combining it with a nuke.

Your primary combo (which every one fears) is --> basic attack -->, so learn to get the critical hits from the ability (without them your damage will go down drastically).
In the early and mid game you should focus on using the ability to set up kills, mainly in combination with your mid or other gods with nuking abilities 's for example.
When it comes to the late game and you have and some penetration you should shift your focus onto the enemy main carry and one combo should result in a easy kill. But even if you do not kill the target just taking the enemy carry out of the game for 4 seconds gives your team the opportunity to win the teamfight.

You can also use the ability as an escape tool if you find yourself in a bad position.

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#2 Core items explained

In this chapter I will present your core items and give a short explaination on each of the items.

Starter items

A must have item for all junglers both for sustain and for farming.
When you reach the point where you do not need the sustain the item provides or am going to share camps with with your teammates you can sell this.

Also a must have for most junglers and the reason why magical junglers are basically non existing at the moment. It provides a ton of damage and mana sustain in the early game. I recommend to keep this item as long as possible. Even though 30 damage is not a lot of damage I can not count how many times I have lost a kill because of less than that (even in the late game).

Two healing potions is the standard for all junglers and you need it for the sustain in the early game in chase you take some damage.

I prefer these because the mp5 from and the mana from killing jungle monsters with is enough mana sustain. So the extra health sustain is better in my opinion.

If you feel like you do not need the extra health sustain from the s, you can go for these instead. But is not very mana hungry so I do not recommend it.

Boots

In my opinion these boots are very underrated, especially for junglers.
When you look at the stats it has 25 physical power less than the , so you lose out on some early game power, but you gain a passive perfect for jungling.
You get 14% extra movement speed out of combat, which is great for rotating and ganking. You get an insane amount of hp5 (only beaten by 's passive) when out of combat. And every 90 seconds you can get 30 extra gold, which will help you get your expensive core item online faster. If you know what you are doing when playing jungle I recommend going with these.

This is the mainstream boots for junglers, because of the early game power it provides. Early game is alpha and omega for junglers, so the extra power you get from this compared to talatia boots could be pretty important. So it is perfectly fine to go these boots as well, and I would recommend doing so when you are learning to play .

Core items

This is the go to early game item for all ability based assassins, so it is also one of the core items for . Physical power,
physical penetration and cool down reduction, what more do you need? You want to get this as your second item after your boots.

Due to the critical hit chance from and and how your and works you need this as early as possible. It is a big investment in the early game, but the payoff is worth it. Instead of getting 2 times the damage from critical hits you will now get 2,4 times the damage. You should get it as your third item.

#3 Tricks and tips for Ne Zha's abilities

Here are some nifty ways to use his kit that you maybe did not know about, there is probably more ways that I don't know about either. If you are starting to learn how to play Ne Zha I recommend focusing on one or two things at the time. Trying to master everything at once will just make you frustrated and you won't get anywhere.

Immortal SpiritImmortal SpiritImmortal Spirit

Immortal Spirit

These tips will mostly revolve around the basic attack swing chain part of the passive, not really much to say about the hp5 stacks other than how to stack efficiently.

Immortal Spirit

The basic attack swing chain

Chasing

Jungling

Ganking

Immortal Spirit

The passive

Immortal Spirit

Universe Ring Toss

I'm going to touch on different ways to use this ability when it comes to jungling, ganking/offensive, escaping/defensive, solo laning and teamfights.

Jungling

Ganking/Offensive

Defensive

Wave clearing

Teamfighing

Flaming Spear

Not that much to say abut this, but I got a few tips when it comes to jungling and ganking.

Jungling

Ganking

Armillary Sash

I will try to give some tips on when to use the ability and when you should save it and on who you should use it on. I'm going to talk about ganking/offensive, defensive and teamfights use of the ability.

Ganking/Offensive

Defensive

Teamfighting

Wind Fire Wheels

I'm going to explain when you should and when you shouldn't use the ability and who you should use it. Also I'll touch on how to use it when ganking/offensive, defensive and in teamfights.

But first off all I'll explain how it works and how you do critical hits instead of just normal hits, which is crucial for your damage output (especially when you have ). DON'T spam the basic attack button (left mouse button by default), doing that will just make you do normal hits. Be patient and wait for the blue circles to appear and spells out "Attack" before you click. That way you are going to do critical hits. Here is a short movie that shows it pretty good (set it on 720p to be able to see anything):

Ganking/Offensive

The most common and easiest way to use the is combined with the stun from . This will basically give you a free hit, but there is a few problems with this combo. First of all if the enemy got and reacts fast they are going to be able to beads the stun and make you waste the because CC-immune targets can't be thrown into the air. Secondly you are going to go back to that exact same place when you are done hitting the enemy, which will make you and easy target for stuns etc if there is more than one enemy in the lane. And you are not going to be able to chase any more if the enemy survives due to not having off cooldown.

One thing you can do is to Blink inn and go straight for the , this will make you able to chase with if the enemy survives. And you can position your self so that you don't go back to the exact same place where the enemy was, because it is easy to catch the enemy off guard so he will most likely not be able to dodge or activate beads before you hit him.

The other way is to just start with the , it might fail miserably with the enemy dodging you and you being completely out of position with no chance of getting out of there. But it is a good way to go inn deal some damage and then dash out of danger again.

If you are having trouble hitting the ability there is a nifty little trick you can do that requires a wall (made by gods or just stuff in the map). If you dash into a wall (not straight into it, but with an angle) that way you are going to travel a long side the wall and if there is someone hugging the wall you will hit them and take them up into the air.

When it comes to combining the ability with your teammates abilities you should always call vsg(x) vvvr, that way they will know that you are going to use and they won't wast any abilities (Spirit's Tempest etc) at least it's not your fault if the do.

Defensive

Teamfighting

Summary

That is my tips on how to utilize 's kit to its fullest potential. Hope this can help you on your way to master the god!

If you got any other tips and tricks with any of his abilities leave a comment and I'll add them to the chapter.

#4 Items explained

In this chapter i will explain the different item choices and build options. As well as stat priorities and explain why I build the way I do and in what situations some of the situational items are worth picking up.

Stat priorites
Your stat priorities mainly varies from role to role, but basic attack chains and skillsets also play a big part in what stats you want to prioritize when you build your god.

As this guide is aimed for Conquest and jungling movement speed is a very important stat. In my opinion movement speed is the most important stat for all junglers.
And because is an ability based assassin (at least that is the conventional way to play him) you should also prioritize cooldown reduction, physical power and penetration.
When you look at 's skillset there is a lot of critical hit chance in the passive rightious spirit and flaming spear as well as and being able to preforme critical hits. So critical hit damage is definitely a must have and other critical hit enhancers are at least interesting choices.
And last ut not least we have to lookat the basic attack chain, which most people forget to think about. In 's chase we got two 1xdamage attacks then a 1,5x damage attack and then a 2x damage attack.

#5 Jungling

In this chapter I'll try to explain my thoughts for when I'm jungling and what I think is the main tasks for you as a jungler. The first part of this chapter is for someone who doesn't have any experience when it comes to jungling in general and I'll try to give some routs that are easy to follow and will let you have some breathing room to gather your thoughts and I'll mention some basic strategies you can use to help with the jungling. The rest of the chapter will consist of more specific information when it comes to Ne Zha and the different builds that I use, more advanced ways to go through the jungle and more on how to deny the enemy team by counter jungling.

Jungling for beginners

Here I'll touch on the basics when it comes to jungling, where you want to be at certain times, what buffs you want to do and stuff like that. I'll post two really basic jungle routs that are easy to do and has a minimal chance for failure. I won't touch on counter jungling here, that will be explained more in depth later in the chapter or any advanced ways to start etc. This is purely for learning how to jungle in a safe and low risk way, if you try to learn everything at once you will most likely just crash and burn.

So first off all you have to figure out which route you are going to use. This will depend on what side of the map you are. The thumb rule is that you are always going to start on the side where the Fire Giant cave is together with the solo laner (which is the short lane). So here are the different routes you should do.

Respawn timers and the importance of the different camps

We have 3 different timers in smite, so it is pretty easy to remember and keep track on. You got normal buff camps which have a 4 minute respawn time, harpy camps witch respawn every 2 minutes and the Gold Fury and Fire Giant which spawn every 5 minutes. Try to learn the mid harpy timers first then add more timers when you get them under control.

Harpy camps

The mid harpies are probably the most important timer to keep track on, this is especially important in the early and mid game. The reason for them being so crucial is that they give 90 gold and 280 exp total which is the almost as much gold as a big buff camp and more exp. This camp is yours and the mid laners job to secure, if your not there when it spawns you are not doing your job. But the same thing goes for the mid laner, if he doesn't help you with it he isn't doing his job either.
When it comes to the baby harpies it's not that important to keep the timer (just have some idea of when they are going to spawn, like are they going to spawn before the next mid harpy camp or after etc). Even though they aren't as important as the mid camps they still give you 71 gold and 184 exp so try to take them as often as possible to keep your farm going. They are super important if you are starting to fall behind.

Buff camps

The buff camps are blue, red and speed buff. All of them have the same respawn timer, and some of them are more important than others just as the harpy camps. The most important camps on your side of the map are speed, red and the blue buff on the solo lane side. The camps you should have a timer on is red and speed (always do blue buff for the solo laner when you are doing red) that way you don't have to remember a ton of timers at the same time.

Gold Fury and Fire Giant

It's not just your job to keep track of those timers, but a easy way to keep track of it is to type like "GF 16:20" if someone killed the Gold Fury at 11:20. That way the whole team sees it and can help with keeping track of the timer (in worst chase all you need to do is scroll through the chat if you can't remember when it is going to spawn again).

Ganking

Here I'll give some examples on how it is best to move into the lane you are going to gank without the enemy in the lane noticing that you are coming. These are the most basic ways to go in and doesn't require anything other than walking up to the lane. From there you decide how you want to engage, check out the tips and tricks in chapter 2. But first of all I'll give you some tips when it comes to ganking in general.

Rule #1: Bypassing wards

Rule #2: Wait for jumps

Rule #3: Don't wast abilities

Rule #4 Communicate

When you get this under control your ganks are going to be very useful for your team and your success when it comes to getting kills when gankin will be high. If you are having trouble with your ganks try and see if there is something you are forgetting to do. If not it is probably mostly because you need more taring when it comes to utilizing your kit together with your teammates, this will come with time so don't give up and keep playing.

when you gank left lane

when you gank mid lane

when you gank right lane

Starting on the right side

When you start on the right side, you would want to go together with the solo laner and mid laner and do the right mid harpy camp. The duo lane should either invade enemy blue or do their own blue on the left side. Hopefully the solo laner has if he doesn't ask the mid laner to help you with red buff before he goes to his lane.

The first 1 minute and 30 seconds

from 1 minute and 30 seconds to about 2 minutes and 30 seconds

#5 Right baby harpies

At 1 minute and 30 minutes you want to be at this camp and clear it as fast as possible, but do not use (you need it for step 6). Try to use the tip about to make it as fast as you can. When you have the camp cleared move to step 6. Try to note the timer of this camp, most likely you are going to clear it at 1:30 so the next spawn will be 3:10 you can use this to help keep track of the mid harpy camp.
If the timer is just at 1:20 when you move over to the left side jungle you can move to step 8 before doing step 6, but only if you have time enough to get to step 6 before the timer reaches 1:50.

#6 Left mid harpies

This is the most important step in the route and the timing is crucial. You have to be there at 1:45-1:50 exactly when the camp is going to spawn (harpy camps has a timer of 1:40, so the enemy team killed the camp in 5-10 seconds depending on how many ppl they where etc). You should always ping the map (and maybe call out for help [VHH]) on your way towards the camp, that way your mid laner can have time to push his lane and then come and assist you with taking the camp. If he the enemy mid laner comes as well you use , if not you save it for step 7. As I said about timers it is very important to keep track of this one, so you will most likely kill the camp at 1:55-2:00 this means the next spawn will be about 3:40. As I said you can use the timer on the right baby harpies to help you with the timer, If the game timer is >3:00 and the right camp baby harpies are spawned you should move over to the right mid harpy camp.
When you get good at this, you should at least try to do the right mid harpy camp as well. And if you can see the enemy jungler on the map (in some lane or something) while you are doing the left mid harpy camp you should always go take the right one as well. If you are going to try to do both camps you should save for the last one, to be able to secure it if the enemy jungler or enemy mid laner comes to steal it.

#7 Speed buff

Hopefully you got ready when you are at this point to help you clear faster. If not just use the tip about to clear it as fast as possible. Then you either go back if you are low on health or you go straight for step 8. Basically you don't want to go back unless you can buy rank 2 boots, so >1335 gold or you really need to heal back up.

From step 7 to 3 minutes and 30 seconds

When you are done with all the steps you got no more jungle to farm for about 40 seconds (depending on how fast you was able to clear) and that is just your right baby harpies which isn't that important that you get the second it spawns. So this is where you are going to gank, first there is a few observations you have to make.

Are there lanes that needs help?
Are there lanes that looks a easy kill (low hp, gods with no jump, squishy god etc)?
Are the enemy minion wave at your tower?
Where is the enemy jungler?

If a lane needs help and are calling for you to gank, you should try to go to that lane. If there are more than one lane that needs help you should try to help either the solo lane or the mid lane (because right baby harpies are going to spawn soon and you want to be able to take those before you do the mid harpy camp again) and frankly a duo lane should be able to hold their lane without much help.

If you see a lane that is on under 50 percent hp you should try to rotate to that lane, so that your team hopefully can get a easy kill. And again you are going to focus on the solo and mid lane.

If one of your lanes are getting pushed hard, that lane will most likely be calling/needing help, but sometimes it's not that big of a problem. Though if you see a lane being pushed hard and the enemy is over extending this can be a great opportunity to gank.

If you got eyes on the enemy jungler (either from allies or from s it can often be a good idea to try to rotate where he is. He might be trying to gank, so if you rotate with him and make a 2v3 into a 3v3 or 1v2 into a 2v2 you are going to probably save your teammates and maybe get out with a kill or two.

So basically you want to look for opportunities to either defend a lane that needs it or pick up a easy kill. If there is nothing going on you should try to force something in mid or the solo lane, even though you might not end up with a kill you state your presence in the lane and if you manage to force someone back that's a huge swing in winning that lane. Just 40 seconds might seem like a short time, but you can get a lot done in that time. Show yourself so that the enemy team knows you are there and keep them on their toes. When you get to the 3:30 mark you have to rotate the mid harpy camp again, try to have off cooldown so that you can use it to secure the camp if needed.

From 3:40 and until end game

Starting on the left side

When you start on the left side, you would want to go together with the solo laner and you are going to do the whole left jungle before going to the lane. The duo lane and mid does the mid harpy camp then the mid goes to his lane and the duo lane takes their blue buff. Hopefully the solo laner has if he doesn't your clear time might be a bit slow, but should keep you at a respectful amount of health. When you start on the left side it might be a good idea to go to the blue and just defend it before the minions spawn (stay there until 00:00, before moving to step 1), because the enemy team might try to invade your buff.

The first 1 minute and 30 seconds

from 1 minute and 40 seconds to about 2 minutes and 50 seconds

#8 Left baby harpies

Kill the camp as fast as you can with and , then you back and buy (hopefully lvl 2 ).

From step 8 to 3 minutes and 30 seconds

When you are done with all the steps you got no more jungle to farm for about 40 seconds (depending on how fast you was able to clear). So this is where you are going to gank, first there is a few observations you have to make.

Are there lanes that needs help?
Are there lanes that looks a easy kill (low hp, gods with no jump, squishy god etc)?
Are the enemy minion wave at your tower?
Where is the enemy jungler?

If a lane needs help and are calling for you to gank, you should try to go to that lane. If there are more than one lane that needs help you should try to help either the solo lane or the mid lane (because the mid harpy camp is going to spawn soon and you want to be there as fast as possible) and frankly a duo lane should be able to hold their lane without much help.

If you see a lane that is on under 50 percent hp you should try to rotate to that lane, so that your team hopefully can get a easy kill. And again you are going to focus on the solo and mid lane.

If one of your lanes are getting pushed hard, that lane will most likely be calling/needing help, but sometimes it's not that big of a problem. Though if you see a lane being pushed hard and the enemy is over extending this can be a great opportunity to gank.

If you got eyes on the enemy jungler (either from allies or from s it can often be a good idea to try to rotate where he is. He might be trying to gank, so if you rotate with him and make a 2v3 into a 3v3 or 1v2 into a 2v2 you are going to probably save your teammates and maybe get out with a kill or two.

So basically you want to look for opportunities to either defend a lane that needs it or pick up a easy kill. If there is nothing going on you should try to force something in mid or the solo lane, even though you might not end up with a kill you state your presence in the lane and if you manage to force someone back that's a huge swing in winning that lane. Just 40 seconds might seem like a short time, but you can get a lot done in that time. Show yourself so that the enemy team knows you are there and keep them on their toes. When you get to the 3:30 mark you have to rotate the mid harpy camp again, try to have off cooldown so that you can use it to secure the camp if needed.

From 3:40 and until end game

When you learn the timers and mange to keep track of them and gank at the same time, you are ready to carry games on your strong muscular manly shoulders. Just don't get frustrated when stuff doesn't go as you plan, they seldom do. If you are starting to fall behind keep clearing your jungle and don't try to get kills while ganking, gank safe and focus on forcing the enemy out of the lane instead and stay for a wave of minions to get some farm.

Advanced jungling

If you are looking to spice up your jungle routs this part can be a good read for you, it will make your routes less predictable which is very important if you are up against a good jungler that knows how to counter jungle.
In this part I will be focusing on counter jungling, different ways to start your jungle route, different ways to gank, different targets to focus, ways to ruin the enemy junglers day and basically just make him useless to the enemy team. So this chapter is going to consist of a lot of pictures of different routs where I explain what my thoughts behind the different routes are. Some of them will be risky and don't expect to be able to use the any of them in every match, some require either good communication or a specific team comp etc.

the lvl 2 mid gank

When the solo lane is on the left side

When the solo lane is on the right side

This start can be very useful for your mid lane if the enemy mid god has very good early wave clear () and your mid god has a slow early wave clear (). Just be careful about early game minion damage! It is also very good the other way around, but it't not that important unless the first blood is available still. If that is the case you should have a easy kill due to your damage, minion damage and your teammates damage.
Requires good communication, a over extended enemy, a close to cleared wave and a solo that can 1v2.

When the solo lane is on the left side

When when the duo line starts on the right side you are going to steal the enemy speed/orange buff with the support player. Most likely the enemy duo lane is going to be doing the blue buff on the right side. So you want to avoid being spotted by them, stay with the mid player and the physical carry/Hunter at the mid right harpies as long as possible (probably like 0:05 played at least). Or you can just do the mid camp with the mid laner and have the duo lane take their blue buff or invade the enemy blue buff. The solo laner either does the left baby harpies or the blue buff depending on what he can handle. Then walk on the left side of the speed/orange buff (between the buff and the mid lane). The support will use his on the speed buff (you are going to pop your potion of physical might) to do the buff as fast as possible and you are going to pick it up. Then you go and hit the big baby harpy and use to clear it while the duo lane goes to lane or does the blue buff (what ever works best for them, best for them to do the blue IMO). Then you gank the mid lane, hopefully getting a kill for it and help push the lane to get some early damage to the tower (and maybe force a teleport if the enemy mid got enough gold to buy one). After that you can go to the solo lane if he needs help or do one of your buffs, just make sure to be at the mid harpy camps at 1 minute and 50 seconds for the respawn.

When the solo lane is on the right side

When the Solo lane is on the right side this start gets a bit awkward, due to the enemy solo and jungler might be doing the right baby harpies. So therefor you have to most likely cross the enemy mid lane to do the left enemy baby harpies (so practice that in some 1v1 or something with a friend before doing it in a real game). You, mid and solo start at the mid harpies then you move trough the mid lane in between the 1st and 2nd tier enemy tower if the enemy jungler and solo laner took the right baby harpies (be careful to avoid enemy minions, gods and most important of all don't go in range of the tower). When you get to the harpies you pop the potion of physical might and use on the camp. From there it's just as if you had the duo lane on the right side.

the delayed mid harpy camp

the shing bm route

#6 Results and match analysis (outdated)

Pros:
Huge power spike with stacked Transcendence and Jotunn's Wrath.
40% cooldown reduction at your 4th item.
Good survivability with shield of regrowth and Magi's Cloak.
Sudo Heavenly Wings on a 10 second cooldown with the shield of regrowth/ Flaming Spear combo (just remember that it does not give slow immunity).
Decent burst damage with Deathbringer and Transcendence.

Cons:
Low penetration, so you can't shred through tanks by yourself.

Guide log

Pretty standard relic choices, I reccomend going Blink Rune first then go into Purification Beads or Aegis Amulet, but then you should get Magi's Cloak to make up for not having beads.

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Marki...dude, update this guide, NOW.

Been finding a new love for him (oh, and I use the skin you have as your avatar). Apparently I've barely played him...Smite Guru says 19 games total, and I'm like...serious? But I feel that I've been seeing an improvement in my gameplay recently with regard to things like skillshots...things like ' , 's , etc...specifically due to having more patience.

Where am I going with this? feels like one big skillshot. Sure, he has some really nice basic attack damage, and his has a very forgiving hitbox width, but it's just one of those things that, to me, every time I connect on anything with him, it just feels sooooo satisfying.

My 2 most recent Joust matches (PC) are this one and this one. Been playing him a bit on PS4 too (10 games total).

In that first Joust match, I forced a very quick surrender at the 10:00 minute mark...after finishing off the other two players, I pushed up to the Phoenix alone (I think), with under his Phoenix. It wasn't as extreme as your video with chasing you, but I baited him, and used the Sash right through his Scythe throw, with 2 quick basics (fortified by ) finishing him off for the deicide. Holy hell was I pumped.

Anyway, these were obviously good matchups for him, but I really want to get better with him. I'll emphasize that I love the very specific tips you have for ability use.

One thing I didn't see you mention (and of course would be situational) would be under 's "Jungling" tips...you talk about using it once there's only the 1 minion left to potentially secure the minion, and of course do as much damage to the enemy god as possible). That said, if you're safe enough (not under threat to get jumped by others), you can more fully commit, securing both the minion (hopefully a buff) and providing that huge burst, by throwing the ring then immediately using ...the stun should prevent them from getting any other hits (if they're not clearing with a DoT/tick ability), helping with the secure.

Anyway...yeah...if nothing else, update the items/builds themselves, then work on the rest? Assume the builds stay mostly the same, they look good other than Fatalis needs to change to Katana...the body has so much info, though, and I still see listings for things like (assume not suggested in its current form) and (lol). Other funny mentions...Focused Voidblade, Combat Blink, Devourer's Gloves, Fist of the Gods, Qin's Blades.

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Marki...dude, update this guide, NOW.

This.

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God I remember one of the reasons I started using SmiteFire was because of this guide! (I was indecisive in which character I would buy next and saw this guide and immediatly bought ) SO YEAH UPDATE THIS MARKI PLEASERINO

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There is so much **** that needs to be fixed NotLikeThis

But I am trying to update it every now and again.
I guess it is easier now with a new season to actually get it done.

Just have to sit down and read it (sigh) and figure out what needs to be updated..

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One more thing...you don't have as a listed relic, but you do talk about it. Do you ever get it 1st? Or do you always get Beads/Aegis first, with Blink as a 2nd relic option?

Actually, another thing...in most cases, you have as the 3rd item, right after . I obviously get the reason for it, but...let's say the enemy team is highly mobile, and you find the need to do more poke than a committed execution...would (or SCS) be a viable 3rd option, delaying DB to 4th?

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Yeah i know I have to take me time to update this ****. So much ******ed information in it and outdated stuff.

When it comes to DB i recently just stoppdd picking it ut at all. Rather going jotuns, shifters, void shield, brawlers and titans or a manfle or hydras. Or a HS somewhere in the build.
DB might be better now with the reduced cost. But it is mainly just good against carries and glasscanons. The void shield and shifters combo deals a lot of damage still (talked to Adapting about it a while back and he explained it in a way that I had to try it. You can still oneshot most of the time, but I have not crunched the numbers myself. Think Kenneth said it was about 40 damage you lost per hit in the ult so under 150 damage). So the protections and cheap build early power spike is worth not picking it.

When it comds to blink. I normally get beads first, but if im feeling like i play well i could go for blink first or if im not afraid of the enemy CC. I get aegis firs a few times, but that has to be aginst an Odin or something.

I definetly have to read through my guide again at some point and root out all the outdated **** :p

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Old guide, but DAMMM is it full of information. You must have spent HOURS!!! on this.

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Spent some hours on it for sure!
And updating takes for ever, mainly updating on my phone while at work.

But i will get there some day, I promise!

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It's sort of funny seeing the older builds with the old "actives." Glad to see you starting to work on the guide, which is one of the defining ones on SF over the past few years...it was always one that stuck in my mind.

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Thanks mate!
I wonder how many hours I've spent on it...
Not sure how I am going to be able to update it all. So sad to have to delete so much content. Migh just make a completely new guide just to have this to look back on haha

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Nice to hear that it can be used for something still :p

Might just add a updated item build ;)

I love this build!!!

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I used this for the skill builder and tweaked items myself and had great results. I know it's old but still useful for new Ne Zha players.

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Your skill builder is waaaaaaaay off :[

As mentioned this is oldas fuq. So item builds are not to be looked at, but the skill leveling is still the same.

Max ringtoss at lvl 9 (save a point at lvl 8) then max sash.

Items atm would be warrior's, jotunn's/winged blade, malice/DB, titan's. Winged blade is great and I still feel db is worth even after the nerf.

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Uhhhhhhhhhh this was 2014.

I sincerely hope you knew this.

Cause It hasnt been updated since (although the new god design is on there (guess the link changed))

Your skill builder is waaaaaaaay off :[

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Are you not going to update this guide anymore ?

probably not :(

RIP

Are you not going to update this guide anymore ?

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I'm just asking you to try this build, I use it a lot for Ne Zha and for me it works really well but I've never have shared it and sense you like Ne Zha (by the looks of it) and knows how he works I just want to share this with you to try it even if its different

Warrior Tabi
Heartseeker
Deathbringer
Dev Gauntlet
Asi
Hastened Fatalist

I love the sort of build you are going for.

Unfortunately it is only going to work vs teams that are WAY bellow you in game knowledge/skill.

I ****ing love Fatalis x) (even though it is a bad item)

Hs is good when you get ahead ;D

DB is OP
DV a bit hard to stack (BF can be a good item to switch it with)

Asi I reallly love it i combination with Hf and DB. (Like you can 1v1 EVERYONE! and as long as you have beads you can stay alive in teamfights!) :P

The Only thing I would change would be Bf instead of Devos :)

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Marki's guide to Ne Zha [Updating in progress]

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Table of Contents

Introduction

#1 Skillset explained

#2 Core items explained

#3 Tricks and tips for Ne Zha's abilities

#4 Items explained

#5 Jungling

#6 Results and match analysis (outdated)

Guide log

Marki's guide to Ne Zha [Updating in progress]

Smite God: Ne Zha

Ne Zha Build

Starter items

Notes

Relics

Notes

Good Item choices

Notes

Questonable item choices

Notes

Example build

Notes

Example build

Notes

Ne Zha's Skill Order

Universe Ring Toss

Flaming Spear

Armillary Sash

Wind Fire Wheels

Universe Ring Toss

Flaming Spear

Armillary Sash

Wind Fire Wheels

Introduction

**UPDATE IN PROGRESS**

#1 Skillset explained

In this chapter I will present the stats of each ability and give you a short explanation of how you can use the ability.

Righteous Spirit (Passive)

Passive Buff Stacks

Universe Ring Toss

Skillshot Damage Selfbuff Debuff Stacks

Flaming Spear

Activation Selfbuff Selfheal

Armillary Sash

Skillshot Damage Stun Immunity

Wind Fire Wheels

Skillshot Dash Damage Lockdown

#2 Core items explained

In this chapter I will present your core items and give a short explaination on each of the items.

Starter items

Boots

Core items

#3 Tricks and tips for Ne Zha's abilities

Immortal SpiritImmortal SpiritImmortal Spirit

Universe Ring Toss

Flaming Spear

Armillary Sash

Wind Fire Wheels

Summary

#4 Items explained

In this chapter i will explain the different item choices and build options. As well as stat priorities and explain why I build the way I do and in what situations some of the situational items are worth picking up.

#5 Jungling

Harpy camps

Buff camps

Gold Fury and Fire Giant

#1 Mid Right Harpies

#2 Red/damage buff

#3 Blue/mana buff

#4 The solo lane

#5 Right baby harpies

#6 Left mid harpies

#7 Speed buff

#1 Left baby harpies

#2 orange/speed buff

#3 Blue/mana buff

#4 The solo lane

#5 Left mid harpies

#6 Red/damage buff

#7 Right baby harpies

#8 Left baby harpies

When the solo lane is on the left side

When the solo lane is on the right side

When the solo lane is on the left side

When the solo lane is on the right side

The route

#6 Results and match analysis (outdated)

Guide log

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Passive
Buff
Stacks

Skillshot
Damage
Selfbuff
Debuff
Stacks

Activation
Selfbuff
Selfheal

Skillshot
Damage
Stun
Immunity

Skillshot
Dash
Damage
Lockdown