A Rework of Smite: Focusing on Viability :: FemFatalis's Blog

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Ok, so I'm going to base this off the current state of game. There will be no crafting of items in this, nor will there be specific god/ability changes, since I'm not a design member and I've seen how people blow up over minutia in those fields. That said, I will note items/gods/abilities that need nerfs, buffs, or removals. Most of my comments are going to be on everything beside mid; I am not an expert on the state of mid in S2, so feel free to comment on my evaluations.
Things that Need to Happen

Bluestone Pendant needs to be removed, and Heartseeker needs a nerf. This seems very agreed upon by the community here, even if HiRez doesn't recognize it. For those who missed the enormous conversation in the forum, Bluestone Pendant removes the inherent weakness of hunters, and Heartseeker makes them stronger in their weakest period.
Qin's Sais needs to be reverted to its old state. Guardians are popular now because nothing short of a full power-penetration Loki can get through them singlehandedly. Qin's Sais's passive, back when it was good, was why we didn't see 3 guardian comps. This also makes characters like Kali and Osiris viable again, as well as the Unicorn builds and variations thereof.
Guardians with too much mobility need reworks. These tanky CC-heavy characters should have to invest in some sort of transportation and initiation to be effective, not have free ultimates like Defender of Olympus or dashes/leaps a la Preemptive Strike and Death From Below.
Hunters with nerfed clear should get it back.
Magical ADCs ( Freya, Chronos, Vulcan, Poseidon, Zeus) should be viable. A (significantly less powerful) magical equivalent of Bluestone Pendant could accomplish this. This also makes other stacking items like Ancile more viable on traditional hunters.
The snowballing mechanic should be revoked or at least nerfed.
A similar comeback mechanic should be created to even out teamfights and allow both teams an "equal" chance at winning. Games would be more even.
MOST IMPORTANT: Design needs to realize what balanced means and doesn't mean. Bellona was a travesty. Medusa was in her own right a travesty as a hunter. Hou Yi, Awilix, and Nox, are all **** in terms of competitive viability. We can all see that gods like Bellona, Sylvanus, and Serqet were made for the express purpose of use in competitive settings, but they still dominate casual play due to their inherently powerful kits and base stats. Stop the power creep and we're on our way to a more balanced game.

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Because sucks lol. Without , he has no pressure until level 20. just isn't worth the investment - it's mediocre and always has been. When was the last time saw play? I actually don't know.

I don't think should be nerfed into oblivion, there's just no reason for it to be 1790 gold. That price is OUTRAGEOUS.

Actually ... is a early-to-mid game warrior, with one of the worst late games. Only Divios to play him rly ...

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(56) |

Let's see the positive side of things here :

is back the way it used to be. Thank the heavens !

Also, I do agree with nerfing , buffing again to the way it used to be, kind of forcing people into building devo's.

Also, I think everyone will agree with this :

needs a buff. It's never seen, and even Pytha's is WAY more popular then it ! is the equivalent of , Item-based !

( If you didn't know, is the least played god in the game, ranking the position of 65th on Smitelite ) ( Can't count Ratatoskr yet, since it's he's debutt day )

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They increased the cap on gold and XP rewards from killing more snowballed players; I just haven't played with that change enough to see if it's effective.

(132) |

I think it's less about the lead that you get from getting kills and more that you don't get that much in smite for killing enemies that are ahead. Shutting someone down does not give you nearly the gold/xp reward to have any hope of catching up to them.

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Kills shouldn't award as much gold imo. An ADC getting first blood is too good right now.

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That's what kills do. Except it can be considered a snowballing mechanic. Not all of them are bad ofc.

Loki cannot... No right-minded Loki would focus a tank anyway as he'd have to use everything on them and he'd be a blind duck. No guardian is in the back line of the fight for you to target. Then again, it's likely you'll be CC' before you can kill the enemy guardian. The only time you focus a guardian if he/she is alone or out of position and that's with anyone really. Arachne does fare well with guardianss and warriors because of her passive and slow. Serqet was one I forgot for bursting down tankier targets.

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I always saw kills as a way to get objectives and put people behind in gold and experience.

can one-shot guardians with full pen and power. can't deal with tanks very well, and simply isn't viable BECAUSE of the nerf to . Forgot about lol.

(105) |

I'm not really sure of down right removing , but I guess it could be something to consider. There would be a lot of changes uncalled for though.

does need a buff. However, Loki isn't the assassin for bursting down tanks and bruisers. Assassins like Nemesis, Arachne, and Kali trade well against tankier targets.

As Sub said with "snowballing mechanics removed" it's much more complex than that. Then again you can't remove all snowballing mechanics then why would kills even matter? heh

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@Sub
1. ? ? I'm talking about the role definition, not the god class definition. Building etc makes your basics hurt more.
2. There need to be god and ability changes, I'm just not going to make them specifically.
3. Agreed. The game needs to change.

@Zilby and @Stuke, is going to see play at some point because Andinster is wrecking with her in ranked, so he's going to bring it to a comp in the future whenever Omega plays . After that, she's going to see more play across the board. Guardians need a change, and this was just a preliminary idea; if you have ideas, feel free to pitch in :)

(112) |

1. There is no such thing as a magical ADC. None of these use attack damage. The term you are looking for is "autoattacking mages" or "magical basic attackers." And having one little sentence enhancing your basics doesn't make you an ADC.

2. You said you didn't want to make god/ability changes...and on your list, you say there has to be god and ability changes?

3. There is no single "snowball mechanic." It's a mixture of various factors, mainly itemization, gold flow, gold/XP income, jungle camp mechanics, minion wave rate, ease and reward of last hitting, god design, etc etc.

(56) |

^ Same.

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