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Haven't played him yet :|

Anything thing I should know or gimme a quick build? xD

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He probably will get a nerf. His damage output is way too much.

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Eh Piederman, I think his lack of escape makes him Artemis 3.0. If get gets combat blink he's fine, which he should. Once he gets that he's set. His damage, sustain, CC, damage, positional CC, speed, and damage are very nasty.

115% + 500, 10.8 second ult...jeebus.

I disagree. I haven't seen any Ah Muzen Cab plays so far that I've been amazed with really. Comparing him with Artemis is wrong in my opinion, as they work better and worse depending on the situation that they are in.

Artemis is actually not bad when it comes to dealing damage, it's just that she specializes in team fights more than killing enemies in 1v1. For example her kit provides map awareness and area of effect stun to multiple targets, while Ah Muzen Cab seems to be specializing in quickly taking out one opponent and kiting the enemies.

I think the CDR% from picking up his stinger might be a little high, but I don't find it to be overpowered at all since most of the team fights in Conquest are over after roughly 10-20 seconds. He also doesn't have any Crowd Control immunity, nor does he have a leap or a dash ability which all the other Hunters have, so he's weaker when it comes to survival.

Sure he can grab one and a to avoid Crowd Control, but that still doesn't make him better at surviving than the other Hunters since they still have Crowd Control immunity and/or a escape ability in their kits.

I don't know what you guys think but I personally sees him as an Assasin/Hunter type. I think he NEEDS the upper hand in damage to have a chance of winning, because he has a downside when it comes to surviving in team fights compared to the other Hunters.

rough look at Artemis and Ah Muzen Cab early, mid and late game damage

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Right now I feel he is fairly balanced save for the Hives. What I hate about them is that: A) he gets 8, and B) They can't be killed using abilities.

What they need to do is make the effects not stack (assuming they do), nerf the amount he is allowed based on level of ability, and make them killable with everything.

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It is kind of odd that they take literally one hit from an auto, but an ult can't touch it.

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It is kind of odd that they take literally one hit from an auto, but an ult can't touch it.

I bet its either a bug or they'll change it so that's not the case.

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I bet its either a bug or they'll change it so that's not the case.

It's not a bug, it's designed to only break on auto attacks so it isn't immediately easy to clear all of his hives immediately, especially with large AoE abilities. I think they only take 1 auto attack though. I think pops them if they're nearby someone hit, however.

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does that mean that he's hard-countered by merc, or is it just me that sees that connection?

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Hmmm, Mercs 1 does proc a lot... need to see about that

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I really wish HiRez would get over this speed fetish. People pretend like he has no escape... but max movement speed is a pretty damn good escape. He'll have hives everywhere to outrun you, or he can just drop them in front of him as he goes with the tiny cooldown.

Offensively he can dance around and attack you like Chronos, only he can do it infinitely since you can't exactly run around breaking hives while you have someone hitting you for ~700 damage a tick.

Others have summed it up already; he has too much utility for the damage he outputs. He needs some kind of weakness. The fact that you can kill him like every other hunter or assassin in the game if you focus/burst him isn't a weakness. He needs to lose the healing, and Honey needs completely reworked.

I'm getting concerned about the future of balance of the game, because the power creep is getting worse. I like playing the game for fun, and for the most part, you're not limited to which god you have to choose to have a chance to win. That seems to be changing.

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