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Frostbound Hammer Vs. Hastened Fatalist

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » January 14, 2014 4:28am | Report
Been trying to see which non-lifesteal set would be good with Bakasura and I've found this. A lot of Baka users use Hasted Fatalis.

I'm not really sure which is better. Sure Hastened Fatalis gives a huge attack speed bonus. But the Hammer acts the same if your a melee character wanting to stay on your target and gives power as well as the health boost.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » January 14, 2014 4:51am | Report
Hastened Fatalis is superior. Frostbound Hammer gives ****py stats, for a bad passive and is expensive. Frostbound Hammer is in a terrible need of a buff, to it's passive and specially the stats.


Hastened Fatalis is more attack speed, therefore more True Damage of Bakasura and bites.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » January 14, 2014 4:59am | Report
Just build Rage, Executioner and Qin and you have all the attack speed. Fatalis just exceeds the limit once your high enough level and that's useless. While I feel the Hammer does fatalis job as well as give a more useful bonus when you already have the attack speed.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Thiel » January 14, 2014 5:01am | Report
MadDanny wrote:

Just build Rage, Executioner and Qin and you have all the attack speed. Fatalis just exceeds the limit once your high enough level and that's useless. While I feel the Hammer does fatalis job as well as give a more useful bonus when you already have the attack speed.

The charm of Hastened Fatalis is the passive though. Bakasura lacks CC, so being able to hit, stay on target and even kite at the same time, gives him a huge edge. (In this rare case better than Exce, in my opinion, due to Bakasura's true damage).
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Jordenito » January 14, 2014 7:32am | Report
Regular Fatalis is better on baka. He has high movement speed to begin with and you can chase an enemy down while holding the left mouse click with ease. + with the passive active you really really don't need hsatened fatalis.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » January 14, 2014 8:07am | Report
Frostbound affects the enemy, helping your team. Hastened fatalis affects you, hurting the enemy team. It depends on how fed you are. Keep in mind, though, that Hastened Fatalis always has a speed component, but you do have to land a basic before Frostbound affects them, so Fatalis helps you catch them AND stick, while frostbound only helps stick if you've definitely caught them.

Also, the damage on frostbound is just nonexistent, Fatalis is better DPS, ESPECIALLY** with bakasura's steroid.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Vaeldyn » January 14, 2014 9:58am | Report
Pretty much everything said. Frostbound has not the best stats.

What I don't get is the difference between Fatalis and Hastened fatalis. In the end, both have a very similar effect. On Ranged gods I would prefer Fatalis, since you can walk balkwards.

Why should I use Hastened over normal at all? Oo
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » January 14, 2014 5:48pm | Report
On ranged gods, yeah, regular Fatalis is better, I think, but on someone like Bakasura, Hastened Fatalis destroys because you can continuously still be right up on the enemy with your basic attacks because of not being affected by the movement reduction from using basic attacks. I think Hastened Fatalis is definitely a nice addition to a build for him and outshines Frostbound for the same reasons already posted.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Vaeldyn » January 14, 2014 11:15pm | Report
SoapSuds wrote:

On ranged gods, yeah, regular Fatalis is better, I think, but on someone like Bakasura, Hastened Fatalis destroys because you can continuously still be right up on the enemy with your basic attacks because of not being affected by the movement reduction from using basic attacks. I think Hastened Fatalis is definitely a nice addition to a build for him and outshines Frostbound for the same reasons already posted.

I don't wanna start something, but if you attack with Fatalis you gain enough speed to also stay on the target or am I missing something?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » January 14, 2014 11:24pm | Report
The speed regular Fatalis gives isn't as good as completely removing the movement speed penalty from attacking. Especially since you'll be moving at your normal speed, which is faster than a carry.
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