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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Romanians » August 15, 2014 1:38am | Report
There's nothing to "fix" when something isn't broken.

It has a very high cooldown that doesn't go down when you level the ability, it has low to decent damage for an ultimate (see He Bo damage before getting ready to type anything) and if the team focuses her she can be killed before going up into the sky. It even shows you when it will hit, so that anyone may time Aegis or a leap in time.

I've seen many people complaining about this ultimate and none of them bothered to try Aegis Amulet. Hell, I only got killed by it ONCE, and it was because I was Loki in Assault and I couldn't buy Aegis because of Salvation.

As a teamfight ability, this ultimate is also close to useless, especially if the enemy team has a healer. Not to mention the fact that the enemy team can regroup and kill you once you come back on Earth.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » August 15, 2014 1:41am | Report
Romanians wrote:

There's nothing to "fix" when something isn't broken.

It has a very high cooldown that doesn't go down when you level the ability, it has low to decent damage for an ultimate (see He Bo damage before getting ready to type anything) and if the team focuses her she can be killed before going up into the sky. It even shows you when it will hit, so that anyone may time Aegis or a leap in time.

I've seen many people complaining about this ultimate and none of them bothered to try Aegis Amulet. Hell, I only got killed by it ONCE, and it was because I was Loki in Assault and I couldn't buy Aegis because of Salvation.

As a teamfight ability, this ultimate is also close to useless, especially if the enemy team has a healer. Not to mention the fact that the enemy team can regroup and kill you once you come back on Earth.

What if you're a jungler and you're against and Ares and Nu Wa?
You'll need Hand of the Gods and another active, but you basically need aegis and beads.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » August 15, 2014 1:47am | Report
Romanians wrote:
It has a very high cooldown that doesn't go down when you level the ability


66 seconds isn't my idea of a very high cooldown, especially considering what it does.

Granted, the 66 seconds is with a full CDR build, but it seems like a very good idea to build full CDR on her anyway.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Romanians » August 15, 2014 2:12am | Report
SoapSuds wrote:




IF built full CDR, normally it has 110 seconds, which is not 90 as most ultimates have.

Anyway, this is my personal opinion, not as a Nu Wa (not the new one anyway) player or fan. I've got no problem with her ultimate or any of her abilities (though Fog is a pain sometimes when targeting her as an assassin).

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Mekali » August 15, 2014 4:19am | Report
Pentargonite wrote:

Yup. ****ing yes. **** her. ****er her **** look. **** her 1. Her 2. Her 3. And her **********ing ult.


I agree iwth him, ipalyed with pwenta last night, Nu Wa killed pwenta 4 times a row on recalling ONLY!
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Nex The Slayer » August 15, 2014 4:23am | Report
The damage isn't the problem in my opinion, its the fact that the cooldown is way to short and that it has no counter play involved. 110s is not a lot and like Sopa said, with full cooldown reduction its only 66s cooldown for a guarantied damage on EVERYBODY. People complain about World Weaver, but at least it has the counter play of body blocking it, with Flame Shards you take damage and there is noting you can do about except hope that you don't die.

Yes I know Aegis counters it, but:
A: Aegis counters EVERYSINGEL ABILITY IN THE SMITE.
B: You wont be have it ready every time she uses it, even if she doesn't buy any cooldown reduction (which nobody dose since cooldown reduction its a must on her) she still has a 10s window where she can hit you with it and if she maxes cooldown she can almost use it TWICE before Aegis is ready again.
C: You might have used Aegis for something else.

I really think they should just replace her ultimate and possibly tweak it and give it to an other god, not because only because its OP and BS but because it doesn't fit her kit. Just give her back her old ultimate, re-name it "Ring of Fire", tweak it a bit, make her fog more useful and nerf her 2 + 3 combo and presto! She is balanced!

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HolyPudding » August 15, 2014 5:14am | Report
Delete her ult. I like the rest of her kit, but **** HER ULT.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Mordo » August 15, 2014 5:33am | Report
I said the exact same thing in one of my vids, the new kit is good barr the current old, new abilities but old ult would be full of Win and more inline with her Lore

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » August 15, 2014 1:11pm | Report
Romanians wrote:

There's nothing to "fix" when something isn't broken.

or a leap in time.

uhm well I don't know if they fixed the 1,8K damage on her 2+3 combo when all minions are hit with 3.

Can you dodge it with a leap :O

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Minscinno » August 15, 2014 1:25pm | Report
I actually don't agree. I've been playing her a lot and i don't think it is op at all. I mean, the damage in early levels is ridiculously low, i mean, at lvl 5 you may not kill gods with one health bar left, which sucks. At late game though, it does starts to get more powerful, but still not OP, imo. The cooldown is something i would agree to work at. I think we could handle it like this: 90s cd flat, not affected by cd red or something like that. Lets take a look at Karthus ult, it has a LOT more damage (cd is bigger though, i think), i know, LoL is a different game, but it do not work THAT different. People complain that "You must wait and hope you don't die" that's not true, you could always aegis but, even if you don't, that seems to be the purpose of the skill. But, yes, for that amount of kill securing (since you can secure pretty much everything at lvl 20) i definitely agree with a cd teak. Alternatively, she could use a different cd progression, at first Fire Shards level, its cooldown would be something like 90s, then lvl 2 95s, ... till lvl 5 with 130s or something like that, being able to reduce it with cd red.
Besides Aegis Amulet, which counters it 100%, Aphrodite and Hel are great "counters" as well since they are always healing low life team mates. I guess people just need to get used to the ultimate mechanic + the cooldown tweaks.

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