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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kadius » August 14, 2014 7:30pm | Report
Come ON Hi-Rez. Global Damage? Did you even take effort? I feel like Thanatos' Ult was really amazing and bakasura's is really amazing but Global damage?
This isn't a rage thread however. Instead I was wondering the communities standing on her ult. I think her fog and her clay soldiers and what not are all well and good dont get me wrong it's just her Ult that i dont like.
My balancing ideas:
Make her not fly into the air so if sh'es killed before the cast is complete no one takes damage
Make it just affect a large area and not global, however it is a tag based system so if they're in the circle when she does it they'll get tagged so running away doesn't cancel the effect.
Or leave it the way it is now but make it hurt (but do 75% less damage) to allies as well. I thinjk that would be cool. An ability that can kill a teamate when on low HP. sure this would lead to many many trolls though but Im sure Hi-Rez will find a way.
Anyways guys what are your thoughts?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Aphnex » August 14, 2014 7:41pm | Report
Global damage isn't the problem...in fact, I love the fact it has global damage. They just didn't incorporate it right.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sasquatch180 » August 14, 2014 7:44pm | Report
Personally I find it a bit cheap since as soon as she notices someone is low she can just ult and get a kill unless they have Aegis.

Problem is that there isn't much of a way to tweak it without killing it.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » August 14, 2014 9:11pm | Report
Her ult is bs and the fact that it hit every enemy no matter what is bs. I've been killed in my ult as Thanatos by her ult, and I've seen people complain of being killed in Apollo's ult by it. That's just stupid.

As discussed in another thread, I might be fine with it if it had a way longer cool down, but as it stands, with a full CDR build, she can cast that ult every 66 seconds.

So in it's current state, maybe OP isn't the best word to describe it as "*********" and "stupid".
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by M4XiiMUS » August 14, 2014 11:01pm | Report
I dont think it is that strong honestly, I mean it doesn't do an absurd amount of damage, and I think it is fine. People are complaining about it being unavoidable or bs and such. But think about it like an Ares ult, they both force you to buy an active. I don't think it is too strong honestly.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sasquatch180 » August 14, 2014 11:05pm | Report
M4XiiMUS wrote:

I dont think it is that strong honestly, I mean it doesn't do an absurd amount of damage, and I think it is fine. People are complaining about it being unavoidable or bs and such. But think about it like an Ares ult, they both force you to buy an active. I don't think it is too strong honestly.


I think if it forces you to buy Aegis then it needs a longer cooldown.

Ares Ultimate has several counters (cc-immune ults, Magi's Blessing, Beads) while Nu Wa's ultimate can only be countered with Aegis (and Geb's shield).

I'd be fine with a power increase so long as the cooldown increased too.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by M4XiiMUS » August 14, 2014 11:15pm | Report
Sasquatch180 wrote:

I think if it forces you to buy Aegis then it needs a longer cooldown.

Ares Ultimate has several counters (cc-immune ults, Magi's Blessing, Beads) while Nu Wa's ultimate can only be countered with Aegis (and Geb's shield).

I'd be fine with a power increase so long as the cooldown increased too.

I think that is a fair trade-off.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 15, 2014 1:17am | Report
Personally I know how I would fix her ult.

I would have it that the ult does gobal damage but the damage does not FOLLOW the target rather after the ult is used the ult comes down where everyone was standing in a certain AOE of each god.

Basically I am saying you will get a warning of when the ult is coming, the ult locks on to your current position and will only GO THERE, if you move the ult will not follow you.

Meaning, if you want to use her ult then you want them standing still or in the general area that they were in when you casted the ult, meaning CC teams would be best so gods like Ymir can freeze they she pops the ult.

Pretty much, I would be fine if they increased the damage if they were to make the ult like that because it would take someone team work to pull off because you would need to CC gods.

For example, if you are Apollo and Nu Wa cast her ult, if you dash before it lands it will NOT hit you because it only locks on to where you ONCE WHERE at.

If you for example stand still, only move a tiny bit, or are CC'd in the same spot when Nu Wa cast her ult you will get hit by it.

I would personally rather her have that and I would even let her increase the damage because it would be avoidable and your mistake for getting hit by it.

The one thing I hate is her powerful minion explosion that **** dose massive damage and is quite easy to keep pulling off from what I can tell.

I am calling for increased damage on her ult if they were to do that fix because it deserves to do a ton of damage when you get hit by that.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » August 15, 2014 1:30am | Report
Yup. ****ing yes. **** her. ****er her **** look. **** her 1. Her 2. Her 3. And her **********ing ult.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Sasquatch180 » August 15, 2014 1:36am | Report
God I hate her Clay Soldier + Shining Metal combo.

Does so much damage and in 1v1 its pretty much a free stun.

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