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Forum » General Discussion » Sorry but hes OP...don't say other wise. 53 posts - page 4 of 6
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 3:44am | Report
I just still want you to answer this though.

Why should hebo be able to spam 6 splashes that do massive damage in 6 seconds while agni, anubis, pos and everyone else has to wait like 6 seconds just for one move to come back and it doesn't even do as much damage as hebos 1.

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At least with other god when you miss a skill you get punished for it or you get a gap that you can counter them with.

With hebo he can ****ing miss 40 times and still spam some more until he hits.
There is nothing skill about his 1. His 1 is a free skill that you can spam until you hit.
If I miss I don't care because its coming right back in 1 second.
If I miss I don't care because I will just put my water sprout up your anus then get my water cannon right back.

I still don't see how this is hard to tell by simply seeing the spammablitly of one move.

Hebo in 6 seconds = splash splash splash splash splash splash and it goes forever

agni in 6 seconds = dash.... then wait for like 11 seconds

Pos in 6 seconds = whirl pool.... then wait much longer.

ALl those gods have to wait around 6 seconds even when they build cooldowns.

So why the **** should hebo's *** get a 1 second spam move that he does insane damage, passive damage, scaling damage?

Again hebo = splash splash splash splash splash splash

you know thats why you **** on people in games don't even deny it because his 1 is the very reason when I was picking him I was ****ping on people.

Hebo's 1 simply has no disadvantages.

Think of it this way.

If you are ranged mage or ad you at least can counter him and not get close.

BUT A MELEE GOD CAN'T COUNTER HIM. Okay there are small counters to every god but for hebo its harder.

Why because once hebo misses his 1 he has it right back up in 1 second lol.

I guess you see no problem with a 1 second cooldown though while all the other mages have to wait 11 seconds on skills that miss while hebos lucky *** gets to spam higher damage abilites.

Again I don't think hebo is OP and I KNOW hebo is not OP.

BUT HIS WATER CANNON IS OP.

I don't get how the other guy thinks the water sprout is op because thats not even the problem.

his one is op.

again, hebo = splash miss splash miss splash miss splash miss ect.

Agni? Dash miss .... wait 11 seconds .....

meanwhile hebo is spamming his 1 before you get any cooldowns off cooldown and hebo is using 5 skills before you even get one of cooldown.

WHY DO YOU THINK CHANG'E TRIED TO JOCK HEBO?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 4:35am | Report
the reason ICEN is because He Bo has to kill some one in 4 to 5 abilities while Agni, Anubis, Poseidon, Zeus etc. do it in 3 max. so if it doesn't get spammy he can't kill. most mages do every thing in one clean sweep while He Bo just keeps hammering.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 5:07am | Report
What? When I played hebo I could kill people like zues in literally 2 abilities!

hebo can easily kill you in one combo without needing his coolowns back.

Like I said this is what I did one match to a zues.

I was mid with hebro and zues was pushing my right lane.

I came from behind him and use my water cannon (took like half of his hp out) then I ulted him and he died.

That was only 2 hits not 4-5 hits. I don't know what you are building or what I had on but I can tell your for a fact that it was only 2 skills I needed to kill zues.

Also the other gods kill in combos so why can't hebo?

Unless you mean hebo can't kill without his ult?

If thats what you want then why can't they do this.

When you land water sprout your cooldown for water cannon gets a lower cooldown.

Basically it allows you to keep spamming your 1 but you have to use another damaging skill to get the cooldown of spam.

For example neith comes up to you, water cannon, then you use your 3, since you land your 3 your water cannon gets a super low cooldown to where you can use it again. If you use your ult it then lowers the cooldown of his water cannon again.

I HATE him being able to spam his 1 freely with no combo needed. He can literally sometimes kill without using anything else besides his 1 if he is up close to someone and they have things on cooldown.

Why not make it to where you have to land yoru 3 or ult to get the current cooldown of water cannon?

It makes more sense to me.

1 skill alone should not be able to rape face on a 1 second cooldown without using any other skill. Sorry I don't mean rape face, I mean rape face while having a 1 second cooldown without doing anything else.

It doesn't even nerf hebo, all it does it force you to not miss your 3 or ult after you use your 1.

After all you say hebo is about them combos so make him rely on his combo just like everyone else instead of having a gatling gun 1 then can freely be used.

What seems more fair
Current hebo = 1 + 1 + 1 + + 1 every 1 second

or

Have hebo = 1 + 3 (the 3 if hit puts his 1 back on low CD) + 1 + ult (puts his 1 back on CD)

It literally keep hebo THE SAME all it does its does not allow you to spam your 1 unless you are landing your 3 or ult. You can still do the same exact stuff as before

The only thing you can't do is spam WITHOUT landing another skill. You can still spam but if you want the spam you have to land your 3 or ult to put the water cannon back down on cd.

At least then I would have respect for his water cannon. Instead of it being free spam I can count on when I miss.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 5:27am | Report
i ment at the same level in a real game. yes when at almost a full build He Bo can finally 2 shot some one but when your both at level 5 and at full health 3 abilities don't kill the enemy with He Bo while Zeus uses his 1 his basics twice and 3 and more basics or an ult. your dead.

Anubis 234 dead.

Poseidon 3 4 while in 3 and let it tick while your stuck or just a little wave and dead.

Agni 4 2 44 and maybe a Flame Wave i count his 4 as 1 abilitie because low cooldown and no mana cost. dead.

Eset ult, spirit bomb and wing gust and pop the ult. dead.

Chang'e 1 4 1 1. Chang'e is the only god who does more then 3 abilities to kill and like He Bo her 1 is on a low cooldown.

mr.wiggelz ( Ao Kuang ). 3 4 dead.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ArlanKels » August 19, 2013 5:58am | Report
I'm thinking of grabbing He Bo next given that he spams abilities(As per All4), and I really like spamming abilities over auto-attacking.

Derailing this thread are Chang'e and He Bo the only Gods who actively have to spam abilities versus autoattacking/1-2 nuke combos?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by iRoxbro » August 19, 2013 6:09am | Report
All4Games wrote:


looking at your level i say come back when you fully understand the game and think of some counters. if that He Bo was such a probleme then build a few items against him (this you did but you could have bought 1 more), try to cc him, or suprise him, get him mana starved




You do realise that I'm playing this since it came into beta? Longer than most of people here and don't judge the person on his level because, trust me, players with lower levels are better than most of 30's. Level in this game means nothing. Once you reach lvl 30, you get to play with noobs more often than when you were in lower levels.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by RazeMage » August 19, 2013 6:19am | Report
iRoxbro wrote:



You do realise that I'm playing this since it came into beta? Longer than most of people here and don't judge the person on his level because, trust me, players with lower levels are better than most of 30's. Level in this game means nothing. Once you reach lvl 30, you get to play with noobs more often than when you were in lower levels.


This is because someone like you (smurf players) if you are telling the truth that you played since beta

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 6:27am | Report
iRoxbro wrote:



You do realise that I'm playing this since it came into beta? Longer than most of people here and don't judge the person on his level because, trust me, players with lower levels are better than most of 30's. Level in this game means nothing. Once you reach lvl 30, you get to play with noobs more often than when you were in lower levels.

yeah nope. i have smurfed to learn a friend and i saw basicly every one build like newbies the entire way... well around level 20 the build became a bit better but they were still not fully playing good as compared to most level 30 players.

also if you have been playing so long then why is your acounts level so low? unless you were smurfing which in this case if you were you played with a carry like neith with which it is very easy to kill new players and you lost.

if you were a smurf and just stomping new players i have no respect for you. if you were new but have been playing since before beta you couldn't possibly be a daily player.

also i do not care if you have been playing since i don't know how long. if you are good you are good and if your bad your bad. i know people who are great but started playing not to long a go and i know people who have been playing since vesufius 1 who are only moderate.

also when you say "you do realise that i have been playing since before beta" how should i know. i don't know you nor do i care.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 6:27am | Report
iRoxbro wrote:



You do realise that I'm playing this since it came into beta? Longer than most of people here and don't judge the person on his level because, trust me, players with lower levels are better than most of 30's. Level in this game means nothing. Once you reach lvl 30, you get to play with noobs more often than when you were in lower levels.

yeah nope. i have smurfed to learn a friend and i saw basicly every one build like newbies the entire way... well around level 20 the build became a bit better but they were still not fully playing good as compared to most level 30 players.

also if you have been playing so long then why is your acounts level so low? unless you were smurfing which in this case if you were you played with a carry like neith with which it is very easy to kill new players and you lost.

if you were a smurf and just stomping new players i have no respect for you. if you were new but have been playing since before beta you couldn't possibly be a daily player.

also i do not care if you have been playing since i don't know how long. if you are good you are good and if your bad your bad. i know people who are great but started playing not to long a go and i know people who have been playing since vesufius 1 who are only moderate.

also when you say "you do realise that i have been playing since before beta" how should i know. i don't know you nor do i care.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ArlanKels » August 19, 2013 7:28am | Report
iRoxbro wrote:



You do realise that I'm playing this since it came into beta? Longer than most of people here and don't judge the person on his level because, trust me, players with lower levels are better than most of 30's. Level in this game means nothing. Once you reach lvl 30, you get to play with noobs more often than when you were in lower levels.


I can honestly say no.

I started a while back, got to level 3 or 4 then quit for a bit.
Friends came along, said they wanted to play the game so I got back into it. I ended up re-rolling to get my ArlanKels name(Don't ask).

At Level 1 the game is a massacre if you have any inkling of how to play the game whatsoever.

My one friend successively went 20/1 in his first five matches as Neith. Utterly ripped apart people. He had never played the game.

Low level people are NOT better than higher level people. They're lower level because they're new, they don't know how the items and skills work or how to properly respond to situations. You might find a few nuggets but they're on their way up the ladder, as it were.

Returning to my own at tempt to derail this thread if I want to spam abilities all day long, instead of 1-2 nuke(Ao Kuang) or auto-attack(Neith) should I get He Bo or someone else?

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