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falls into the category of being a hyper carry. If he gets fed he scales through the roof into the endgame, but if he's not getting kills or dying a bunch, he ends up becoming free gold for his opponents.

But this does beg the question: What can be done about a fed He Bo?

Silence. Silence completely shuts down his ability to damage your team (outside of his basic attack, which will usually be very slow). , , , and a few other gods have silencing skills that last long enough to deprive He Bo of precious seconds he could've spent bursting you down. This gives your team a very good window of opportunity to kill him with little resistance, since he's so squishy. If you have stuns, those are even better, though most last for a very short time or are telegraphed moved (i.e. ).

He Bo's only way to escape or avoid CC is his ultimate, which is also his strongest damage move, so by forcing him to use it, he loses his only means of protection outside of , and his ability to burst is greatly weakened.

As with any fed opponent, you should never fight him alone. Always be with a teammate or two, and always aim to take him down first in a teamfight.

Regarding protection-building He Bos: Usually two penetration items are all it takes to nullify whatever one protection item they buy ( + will negate a magical protection item easily). Also bear in mind the more protection he's forced to buy, the less damage he will inflict endgame.

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How do you avoid the Waterspout if He Bo's player is very accurate?

I have been unable to manage this, and am often surprised by how far it's range is(I sometimes get knocked up just short of auto-attack range).

In a 1v1 scenario I am incapable of handling the knockup + burst He Bo outputs with characters like Ao Kuang.

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He Bo has a small 'animation' before he casts it, where he bends over and reaches his sleeve into the ground, and then it causes the knockup.

It's simple enough to dodge since the radius is literally one god wide. They'd have to anticipate where you would be going perfectly.

And Ao Kuang is simply not a good god versus he bo - he's way too passive, and any gods that can dive an Ao will kill him.

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Hebo is really strong. But hesitate to call him OP. The only aspect of him that I might want to look at is the knock up effect from water spout. That might be OP. Short of that... he's fine. And even then that might be okay.

Really, with all the stupid OP/UP gods in the game the last one I'd go after at this point is hebo.

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Today had 47 min long conquest round. It was probably the most annoying round ever...was so pissed.

It was me ( neith ), guan, aphrodite, ao, fenrir vs hebo, xba, ne zha, anubis and another neith.
During the first 10 mins I got fed by their xba in mid and had stats 6/0 while their hebo got also fed a bit in left lane..he was around 5/0...I ganked a few times left lane and fed myself even more and killed he bo a few times so he was 6/4 and I had 10/0...

Their whole team sucked besides hebo and almost everyone in our team was fed, especially me. I had around 12,5k gold while hebo had around 7k...I had already all items I needed and we pushed all towers already. They were playing defensive and after he bo reached around 10k gold, it seriously became pointless. I was much more fed, I even bought magic def but it's worthless. We lost because of their hebo who was killing everyone in single hit. Whenever my aegis would be ready, I managed to avoid his ulti and I died anyway because of his low cd's, fast mobility and huge dmg. It was just freaking impossible. Our whole team got screwed because no one was able to kill hebo. We managed to kill him a few times and we destroyed their 2 phoenixes but once he respawned, again the whole team died..it's just pointless...Even with firegiant buff, we couldn't stand a chance. I was much more fed than he was and thx to his OP'nes he became more fed than me and we can say, he won that match on his own..It's just dumb how that god has so big dmg, how easily he can escape, how low cd's he has...He is squishy true and even if you get in range, you get killed.

I had 10/0, he 6/4 stats...he ended up with 30/11 while I ended up with 19/9..seriously

I took 48.7k damage with 9 deaths..while he took 35.3k damage with 11 deaths...

Here's match details:

https://account.hirezstudios.com/smitegame/match-details.aspx?match=22325547

check stats of HIS whole team and Kills/deaths...they all sucked so badly and then check our stats...

After today's match I seriously lost my will to play smite at all...Players who defend hebo so badly are obviously hebo players or players who didn't get a chance to play vs a decent hebo. There's no such a thing as a pro hebo. Any noob can play that ******ed god

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looking at your level i say come back when you fully understand the game and think of some counters. if that was such a probleme then build a few items against him (this you did but you could have bought 1 more), try to cc him, or suprise him, get him mana starved

your team didn't have any real hard carries but a lot of cc so use that while their team had real snowballers. your job should have been to push as hard as you can and finish as fast as you can. you not doing that lost you the game.

the reason you had less deaths but took more damage is because you were and he was who has no real escape while neith can root and jump.

's job is to put as much hurt out as he can in a short time while in team fights. try to use this to your advantage because has to be in the middle of a team fight to do that.

when he was there your fenfir could have leapped with full runes on to stun him than ult him, bring him to your team, let guan ult him while all of you dish out damage of the none ult veriëty and he is dead because he is really squisshy. and then you could focus on the rest of the enemies who according to you were not doing much and then win the team fight.

after that make a bull rush to the enemy mino and win.

viola here is a way you could have won and coutnered the

1 more thing. your team did not have any late game carries while your enemies had 3 of them so the longer the game would last the more doomed you were. you were past the point of winning simply because your team let the game drag out.

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I have to ask, All4Games, how impartial you can be in regard to Hebo given that he is your main(Or one of).

One of the things you also have to realize is that He Bo is very much a pubstomper in the lower levels. Most newer players have no clue how to handle him, his damage is vicious and his ability to juggle you in the air makes you want to weep like a baby. Most of the popular newbie friendly Gods(Ao Kuang for example) seem to be directly countered by He Bo.

I have never seen a He Bo in my 18 levels of play thus far do bad. Every single one ends with a positive KDA and a team win.

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THere is a reason why hebo players rape faces off, its not because he sucks thats for sure. ITs not because his abilities are hard to hit, if anyone says a cone ability is hard to hit then you must also think skill shots are impossible. If anyone claims hebo has no range they are out of space.
If anyone claims hebo can not rape you from up close they are even more on crack.

Have any of you been following the picture here?
The only advice people give on how to stop a hebo is HAVE YOUR WHOLE TEAM FOCUS HIM?

Yes easier said then done, you cannot have your entire team ALWAYS 24/7 focus on one god. In a team fight 90% of the time I would say you are going to be more worried at the people attacking your *** then worrying about a hebo.

Example :

Sobek, Hebo, athena, anhur, thor.

Lets pretend that is the team you are facing.

Now do you really expect to focus a ****ing hebo when you have these ****ers raping your faces ?

Yea it sounds nice and all say get your whole team to focus one god but in a team fight your going to have sobeks tail whipping your *** around, and even though YOU HATE to not focus the hebo YOU WILL BE FORCED TO. Why because your not just going to sit there while thor swings your face away and athnea taunts you away from hebo.

You can't just get your whole team to die in order to kill one measly god. You can focus gods like hebo SOMETIMES but when your in a team fight you will have more **** to worry about than one hebo. And getting to their hebo will be harder than it looks when you ahve 4 of his team mates smashing your face in with cc.

ALl I know is this.

When I play hebo, I can out range gods and poke their hp away. His poke is not easily dodged like some want to say. Actually I am willing to be that If I said "NOW" right as I use the poke you will still get hit by it. The dely is not that long and If I remember correctly the water comes out almost at the same time hebo moves down into the ground so its not something that people are going to dodge with ease.

Hebo can camp and blow your face away up close.
What does this mean?

This means that melee characters will get smacked around at long ranges and that means melee characters will get their face pnwed up close too. So when you wonder why people cry its not because of this even though this is a good reason to whine.

BUT THE REASON IS SPAMABLE 1's that CD in 1 second.

I could careless if he does super amount of damage, I could care less if he scales insanely on his 1, I could even careless that HE GOT MORE DAMAGE from his passive.

What I do care about is that when I play him I can spam my 1 every 1 second and still do insane damage.

1 second.... people must not realize how long 1 second is.

1 second is the time in which your going to see your hp go down ON THAT MOVE ALONE.
so in 5 seconds I need not say more.

He can easily merk your team along with you in the time of 6 seconds.

**** even in 6 seconds your cooldowns will just start coming off cd and thats if you built CD!

Hebro? They should name him HEPRO.

Hebos go like 13-1 alot. Its not because he takes mad skill like some think.

THE ONLY SKILL IS NOT DYING. ALl his moves are easy to land. Cone = easy, decent aoe with MAD RANGE = easy.

Cone abilites are not skill shots.

Again I'm not saying nerf him but I will point out all the things I think is kind of bs.

I played him why do I feel this way? Because I see it when I play him I literally splash a 1v3 on 3v3 joust and can face a 1v3 as long as I move in and out.

This is as simple as I could put it when using one move only.

Hebo in 6 seconds = splash, splash, splash, splash, splash, splash

Agni in 6 seconds = dash.....

Anubis in 6 seconds = hands .....

Pos in 6 seconds = tital wave .....

DO NOT EVEN ARGUE AGAINST THIS.... Did I mention hebo has other moves?

That is just one move only and you can see what one move only can do to you.

Don't even say anything just go back up and see splash splash splash.

Lets make it even more noticable!

What happens when you waste

Agni's dash? your screwed

Pos ' whirl pool? Your screwed and have to wait for it again

ANubis's wrap? Your screwed

Hebo's 1? Well you just spam it some more so its okay if you miss it.

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You don't get that close to hebo.

Too many people think its unfair that you can't ****** rush any god and man mode them for the win.

You don't do that to hebo. He is strong. But most of his damage is very close range and you can avoid nearly all of it by staying back.

The long range threat from hebo is the water spout. Not only because it has range but because the knock up is effectively a mini stun that will give him time to close and blow your head off from close range. Surviving hebo is mostly about juking the water spout.

You have to remember that about once every 18 or so seconds he's going to water spout. Avoid it and don't get close to him unless you think you can kill him in about 2 seconds.

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oh don't get me wrong i know how strong is and i have expierenced it for my self from both sides. the difference is that i never went up against a before i knew how awesome he was.

i have faced 's as a and as other gods. and when i faced them as i knew what to do and how to counter them.

Mr.wigglez (ao) is actually a hard counter to .

see most 's at low levels and higher will have to play very aggresive to poke and kill.
ao is the most passive god in the game. he will clear the wave long before has and get minions in the tower.

if you see a who will be a probleme for you then start thinking of a way to kill him and shut him down in a few senario's while building a bit of protection.

i know how strong . have you ever went up against him as agni? wow that is difficult. but i also know how to couter him like few others and that is because i play him often. i still find new strategies with him as well as ways to counter him. all you need to do is find them.

the reason that im impartial is because i like you am just another smite player who has like you are going now went up the road to 30. i have had seen gods who were really strong and some just down right OP. the fenrir fiasco when he came out for example, at full runes he would pop his buff and then 3 the target which back then did 4 buffed basic attacks.

to me is not OP because for every argument made that he is OP and the given or serario with it i will have already a couter stratgy ready for how they could have handeld it. i know these counter's because i play him. i come up with these counter's while playing him or against him and i shut him down.

actually now that i think about it i am NOT impartial. i will say that is down right NOT OP. i will say that he is very strong.

to those saying that he is OP i will have to say.

play him, learn him, fight him and think of strategies and counter strategies for all situations. then comeback and tell me OP or not. and if you still say Yes he is OP and nothing else i will say that if he is then there are a lot more gods who are more OP then him and that i will have to disagree with him.

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Sorry but hes OP...don't say other wise.

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