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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by RazeMage » August 19, 2013 7:41am | Report
Hmm, he bo is kinda a nuke late game. Most mages are like that. Maybe Ra (but he is free) is more of a sustain god or maybe chang'e.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dragonblaze » August 19, 2013 8:09am | Report
i don't think he bo is OP, if you play with him good he is strong but okay what do you expect from a nuke mage? They will always have kills.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 8:22am | Report
ArlanKels wrote:



I can honestly say no.

I started a while back, got to level 3 or 4 then quit for a bit.
Friends came along, said they wanted to play the game so I got back into it. I ended up re-rolling to get my ArlanKels name(Don't ask).

At Level 1 the game is a massacre if you have any inkling of how to play the game whatsoever.

My one friend successively went 20/1 in his first five matches as Neith. Utterly ripped apart people. He had never played the game.

Low level people are NOT better than higher level people. They're lower level because they're new, they don't know how the items and skills work or how to properly respond to situations. You might find a few nuggets but they're on their way up the ladder, as it were.

Returning to my own at tempt to derail this thread if I want to spam abilities all day long, instead of 1-2 nuke(Ao Kuang) or auto-attack(Neith) should I get He Bo or someone else?

you could get He Bo, Cronos or Chang'e depending on what you like.

hebo for a lot of nuking. cronos if you like basic attacking or chang'e if you like supporting.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 8:28am | Report
All4Games wrote:

i ment at the same level in a real game. yes when at almost a full build He Bo can finally 2 shot some one but when your both at level 5 and at full health 3 abilities don't kill the enemy with He Bo while Zeus uses his 1 his basics twice and 3 and more basics or an ult. your dead.

Anubis 234 dead.

Poseidon 3 4 while in 3 and let it tick while your stuck or just a little wave and dead.

Agni 4 2 44 and maybe a Flame Wave i count his 4 as 1 abilitie because low cooldown and no mana cost. dead.

Eset ult, spirit bomb and wing gust and pop the ult. dead.

Chang'e 1 4 1 1. Chang'e is the only god who does more then 3 abilities to kill and like He Bo her 1 is on a low cooldown.

mr.wiggelz ( Ao Kuang ). 3 4 dead.
Ummm.... May I just point out that you when you listen ALL THE COMBOS you brought up the ULTS in every god besides HEBO?

You took out hebos ult so it looks like hebo can't kill at level 5 lol, hebo can ult just as well as all the others so why did you not use the number 4 for hebo but you did for anubis, agni, and everyone else.

If you want to take away the ult from hebo then take it away from everyone else. But you can't tell me hebo can't kill at level 5 and say "everyone else can kill at level 5"

You then show the combos and I realized that every combo at level 5 you listed require the use of their ult mean while you left out hebos ult from his combo for some odd reason... maybe so it fits with "hebo can't kill at level 5" cough cough until you add his 4 then he can just like everyone else.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 8:36am | Report
ICEN wrote:

Ummm.... May I just point out that you when you listen ALL THE COMBOS you brought up the ULTS in every god besides HEBO?

You took out hebos ult so it looks like hebo can't kill at level 5 lol, hebo can ult just as well as all the others so why did you not use the number 4 for hebo but you did for anubis, agni, and everyone else.

If you want to take away the ult from hebo then take it away from everyone else. But you can't tell me hebo can't kill at level 5 and say "everyone else can kill at level 5"

You then show the combos and I realized that every combo at level 5 you listed require the use of their ult mean while you left out hebos ult from his combo for some odd reason... maybe so it fits with "hebo can't kill at level 5" cough cough until you add his 4 then he can just like everyone else.

i actually left his combo out entirely. my mistake sorry.

He Bo's combo is 3141. four abilities used and dead only 1 of which has a bit of cc.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by iRoxbro » August 19, 2013 9:21am | Report
ArlanKels wrote:




Low level people are NOT better than higher level people. They're lower level because they're new, they don't know how the items and skills work or how to properly respond to situations. You might find a few nuggets but they're on their way up the ladder, as it were.



Well, I'm low level and I'm not new or newb and I know exactly how everything works in this game. There are people like me who get to lvl 30 and then they just start all over with a new account. Tbh the game is the most enjoyable at lvl 15-20's...I'd stay 4ever on those levels if I could. At lvl 30 you expect everyone to be pro and awesome and then you realise that there are people who're lvl 30 and really really bad or just trolls

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 19, 2013 9:26am | Report
All4Games wrote:


i actually left his combo out entirely. my mistake sorry.

He Bo's combo is 3141. four abilities used and dead only 1 of which has a bit of cc.
You see this is where the problem starts FOR ME with hebo.

You say his combo is 3141 buts thats NOT where it stops.

Hebo's combo can be 1314131 and maybe a 3 in another 2 seconds. This combo can literally be done I'm pretty sure if you have the 1 second cooldown.

That is why his 1 is messed up :)

The only thing hard about hebo is not dying when I gank you from behind LIKE ANY GOD, I played kali a match ago and kept killing him with my utl but I don't know why you say his escape is **** because he used his escape on me and it stopped me from chasing him. I simply just gave up because he was too fast on his river and when you walk through it it slows you.

So if you think about it the slow is like increasing his speed even further.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ArlanKels » August 19, 2013 9:34am | Report
Hrn.
Went 27/11/16 as him in Arena.
First time as him.

He's interesting, enjoyable but yeah..his damage is a bit too high.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » August 19, 2013 9:44am | Report
ICEN wrote:

You see this is where the problem starts FOR ME with hebo.

You say his combo is 3141 buts thats NOT where it stops.

Hebo's combo can be 1314131 and maybe a 3 in another 2 seconds. This combo can literally be done I'm pretty sure if you have the 1 second cooldown.

That is why his 1 is messed up :)

The only thing hard about hebo is not dying when I gank you from behind LIKE ANY GOD, I played kali a match ago and kept killing him with my utl but I don't know why you say his escape is **** because he used his escape on me and it stopped me from chasing him. I simply just gave up because he was too fast on his river and when you walk through it it slows you.

So if you think about it the slow is like increasing his speed even further.

you cant keep that up long enough because mana is a thing and he is to squishy to keep that up.

those combo's i pointed out were for 1 clean swoop with range. hebo cant do that.

his river slow becomes indeed pretty heavy late game but you could have bought Winged Wand... ya i get your point. but if they nerf hebo it should be in his 2 and make the animation slower from the beginning but the more you level it it becomes as fast as it is now.

that way it becomes easier to doghe but still usefull in later game when you need to knock op that high movement target.

and that is another thing why is Hirez so in love with stupid high movement speed? i mean more and more gods are starting to get a boost in movement speed and i don't get why?

also his escape is **** in comparison to others. that is why i just don't really use it as an escape anymore but as a line for slows and jukes.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ArlanKels » August 19, 2013 9:58am | Report
As to his damage being too high I was talking more along the lines of later on, by the way. initially he seems to suffer from meh damage and squishiness mixed with mana constraints. As the game goes on and the items pile up he spikes upward in terms of damage, eventually outputting 1k with his ultimate(after resistances) to large groups of people.

I tend to favor poking with his 3 and then finishing with his 1 or ultimate, I expect this is the common playstyle utilized. It is a very mean style of combat in a one on one, if they can't close the gap you're going to shred them.

(Let me know how accurate this assessment is, I am still pretty newbie)

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